Flights with no e-readers?! - Page 9

HarryT · 01-01-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

It is very rarely you get stopped in custom checks and traveling inside EU it never seems to happen.

If you travel outside (or into) the Schengen Treaty area of the EU (the part where internal border controls were abolished) it can certainly happen. I got my bag searched in customs last time I went to Switzerland, for example. Single guy with a beard - I guess I'm "suspicious".

aceflor · 01-01-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

If you travel outside (or into) the Schengen Treaty area of the EU (the part where internal border controls were abolished) it can certainly happen. I got my bag searched in customs last time I went to Switzerland, for example. Single guy with a beard - I guess I'm "suspicious".

Plus Switzerland is a non EU country (crazy, but they keep their "neutrality"). Edited:single guy with a beard hummmm... very suspicious.

DawnFalcon · 01-01-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

If you travel outside (or into) the Schengen Treaty area of the EU (the part where internal border controls were abolished) it can certainly happen. I got my bag searched in customs last time I went to Switzerland, for example. Single guy with a beard - I guess I'm "suspicious".

Won't happen again though - Switzerland is now inside the Schengen Area.

aceflor · 01-01-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Won't happen again though - Switzerland is now inside the Schengen Area.

Since when? I flew to Zürich 3 months ago and had to show my passport.

Dr. Drib · 01-01-2010, 02:15 PM

From Peru to the U.S. -- carry-on with 5 ebooks inside was searched. They were taken out and put into a separate tray. No problems. This happened twice.

When I leave the U.S., I imagine it will again happen two times.

Don

EowynCarter · 01-01-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aceflor

Since when? I flew to Zürich 3 months ago and had to show my passport.

Probably just sometime after you went there.
My sister lives in Zürich, she likes the change, as she goes back to France every now and then.

whitearrow · 01-01-2010, 03:12 PM

I would put up with all the searching nonsense, etc. if they didn't mug me for a SEALED bottle of airport-purchased water, like they did the last time I flew home from Mexico. Absurd, and not something that happens domestically.

DawnFalcon · 01-01-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aceflor

Since when? I flew to Zürich 3 months ago and had to show my passport.

Since December 08. Where did you fly from? Remember that the UK is not part of the zone.

MickeyC · 01-01-2010, 04:06 PM

If they go with the no eBook Reader rule, I can see the resulting headline:

MobileRead Member Attempts to Take Over Plane with eBook Reader

Today a member of the MobileRead Forum, flying under the pseudonym "Queen Z', tried to take over a plane with her eBook reader. But just as she was attempting to do this, she noticed the book she had open on the reader was by an author she hadn't read so she postponed what she was doing for just a minute to read a few pages. But, an hour after the plane landed, she was still absorbed in the book and forgot why she was on the plane in the first place.

Harmon · 01-01-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by calvin-c

'excellent' security? You need to read some of the reports. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11882430/ is the most recent test I could find, from 2006, but I don't think it's really gotten better. The whole industry could be used as a case study in how *not* to handle problems. Most of the security procedures don't provide any protection, but they certainly create opportunities to PO customers. I do NOT understand why the airlines do this. (And I firmly believe that it is the airlines. If they actually cared, they would be lobbying the TSA-and higher-to change the rules so they could treat their customers better.)

The last flight I took, back in September, there were two "security" lines. In one (mine, unfortunately) the guy at the desk was examining everyone's driver's licenses etc minutely, using some kind of blue light. The guy at the other desk was basically waving people through.

Remember box cutters? My thought then & now was that the best security we could have was not to ban box cutters, but issue them to everyone who boards a plane.

If I were a terrorist with a bomb, I'd detonate it at the security checkpoint. (Shhh!)

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Personally, I've refused to fly anywhere for the last 4 years-and the last time I did fly it was because our car broke down on the way out of town. It was either fly to our destination or let the concert tickets (and other pre-paid costs) go unused.

If I have a choice, I don't fly. It's getting to the point that if I don't have a choice, I don't fly. At work, I try to avoid all assignments that would require me to fly. And when I retire, I'll have the time to take alternate modes of transportation.

Lirael · 01-01-2010, 05:27 PM

My last flight (at the end of December) wasn't any different from normal with security measures and all, but then again, it was a domestic flight, not international. They didn't give me any problem over my electronic devices, though I had a lot of them, and there weren't any special restrictions. I've never had to turn a device on at security, even flying internationally.

My biggest complaint with security is not the rules and regs, though I do think some restrictions are ridiculous, but the people working security. Last time we flew, my dad had all his medications in his checked bag. The security person searching it opened up all the bottles and then dumped them back in the bag without putting the lids back on. It was *fun* having to sort those all out when we got to our destination. (not!) Or when they searched my mom's suitcase, didn't close it properly, and her clothes ended up all over baggage claim - and instead of helping, the people working just stood there and laughed at her.

I really wish I could avoid flying, but with family scattered all over the place, there's not much to be done.

TallMomof2 · 01-01-2010, 06:02 PM

My husband flies frequently for business and it's exhausting. Along with all the security, husband has darkish hair and a goatee and gets closely scrutinized, the airlines have canceled many direct routes. We live 10 minutes away from Dulles which is a decent size airport and on his last few trips he's had to fly out of BWI, an hour and half away, because Dulles doesn't have good connections to medium sized US cities.

His biggest complaint is dealing with personnel of particular airlines. Another reason he drives to BWI is because dealing with Southwest is less frustrating than dealing with United or American.

NeilHawkes · 01-02-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nick101

Ha! We planted that story just to smoke you out, and it worked! Come 1/1/13, you're busted matey!

Oh sh#t, I'll have to wear a cunning disguise instead.

Barcey · 01-02-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilHawkes

Oh sh#t, I'll have to wear a cunning disguise instead.

You might have heard that they were restricting bathroom access towards the end of the flight and think it's a good idea to wear some Depends undergarments as a backup.

I wouldn't recommend it. It sounds like you're going to have enough trouble.

Krystian Galaj · 01-02-2010, 08:47 PM

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad."
– James Madison

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” – Benjamin Franklin

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01-01-2010, 02:15 PM	#125
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,613 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	From Peru to the U.S. -- carry-on with 5 ebooks inside was searched. They were taken out and put into a separate tray. No problems. This happened twice. When I leave the U.S., I imagine it will again happen two times. Don

01-01-2010, 03:12 PM	#127
whitearrow Guru Posts: 808 Karma: 2260766 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Kindle Oasis 2	I would put up with all the searching nonsense, etc. if they didn't mug me for a SEALED bottle of airport-purchased water, like they did the last time I flew home from Mexico. Absurd, and not something that happens domestically.

01-01-2010, 04:06 PM	#129
MickeyC Grand Sorcerer Posts: 16,731 Karma: 12185114 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Device: iPhone 6 plus, Sony T1, iPad 3	If they go with the no eBook Reader rule, I can see the resulting headline: MobileRead Member Attempts to Take Over Plane with eBook Reader Today a member of the MobileRead Forum, flying under the pseudonym "Queen Z', tried to take over a plane with her eBook reader. But just as she was attempting to do this, she noticed the book she had open on the reader was by an author she hadn't read so she postponed what she was doing for just a minute to read a few pages. But, an hour after the plane landed, she was still absorbed in the book and forgot why she was on the plane in the first place.

01-01-2010, 05:27 PM	#131
Lirael Moomin Posts: 137 Karma: 202147 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Sony PRS-350	My last flight (at the end of December) wasn't any different from normal with security measures and all, but then again, it was a domestic flight, not international. They didn't give me any problem over my electronic devices, though I had a lot of them, and there weren't any special restrictions. I've never had to turn a device on at security, even flying internationally. My biggest complaint with security is not the rules and regs, though I do think some restrictions are ridiculous, but the people working security. Last time we flew, my dad had all his medications in his checked bag. The security person searching it opened up all the bottles and then dumped them back in the bag without putting the lids back on. It was fun having to sort those all out when we got to our destination. (not!) Or when they searched my mom's suitcase, didn't close it properly, and her clothes ended up all over baggage claim - and instead of helping, the people working just stood there and laughed at her. I really wish I could avoid flying, but with family scattered all over the place, there's not much to be done.

01-01-2010, 06:02 PM	#132
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	My husband flies frequently for business and it's exhausting. Along with all the security, husband has darkish hair and a goatee and gets closely scrutinized, the airlines have canceled many direct routes. We live 10 minutes away from Dulles which is a decent size airport and on his last few trips he's had to fly out of BWI, an hour and half away, because Dulles doesn't have good connections to medium sized US cities. His biggest complaint is dealing with personnel of particular airlines. Another reason he drives to BWI is because dealing with Southwest is less frustrating than dealing with United or American.

01-02-2010, 08:47 PM	#135
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." – James Madison “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” – Benjamin Franklin