How I got 4000 plus books to show - Page 6

AprilHare · 12-21-2009, 03:39 AM

I wonder if this large book collection discussion applies to the PRS-500 with firmware upgrade too?
I should be clear: before the firmware upgrade, I put a very large collection on my memory stick - and it became slow as molasses and downright unstable.
ATM I have 300 odd books on it - and am thinking about reintroducing my large collection of e-books..

sealbeater · 12-21-2009, 04:35 PM

I've never seen the slightest difference in either responsiveness or battery life, and I've had this 505 for about 2 years now.

I don't have a 500 so I dont' know, but you can try some of the strategies posted earlier in the thread.

DrMoze · 12-23-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sealbeater

Hate on, hater.

I'm not hating at all. In fact, I'm laughing at the silliness of those who are obsessed with cramming way more books onto their Reader than they will ever actually read. And somehow feeling 'proud' about such wasteful silliness.

tompe · 12-23-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMoze

I'm not hating at all. In fact, I'm laughing at the silliness of those who are obsessed with cramming way more books onto their Reader than they will ever actually read. And somehow feeling 'proud' about such wasteful silliness.

Well, then people buying more books than they will read are silly also.

It is a question of choice. When you are going to read the next book you want to have all your books to choose from. Why do people like to have a Kindle were you can choose between all books at Amazon when choosing the next book?

sealbeater · 12-23-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMoze

I'm not hating at all. In fact, I'm laughing at the silliness of those who are obsessed with cramming way more books onto their Reader than they will ever actually read. And somehow feeling 'proud' about such wasteful silliness.

Can you do what I do? No? Than why criticize me for it?

My man, you are the definition of a hater. But that's cool, because I'm the definition of a real motherf*****r (bleeped for the babies) and it's your job to hate on people like me and it's my job to continue to be real about what I do.

Yes, I feel quite proud, for several reasons. Mainly because I've overcome and continue to overcome artificial limitations on my library.
For the people who feel where I'm coming from, about needing choice and not letting things stand in the way of your goals, of pushing the edge, and those who love reading books, (which I do, and I do love my 505, that doesn't mean I can't push it to do more), I've noted my experiences and experiments and results. I will continue to do so.

The limitation on books is a result of bad programming, nothing that the 505 is physically incapable of doing. You can choose to accommodate your lifestyle to accept the limitations imposed upon you by others, but I am of quite a different ilk entire. You can post snide comments about people who have taken the time to analyze and experiment and write scripts and "waste their time instead of enjoying what the PRS-505 is designed for" as you put it, but I'm enjoying my 505 far more than you. I haven't had to connect it to a computer to transfer books for a long time. I can read whatever I want to. It's not my whole library, but it's substantial. I've crossed the Pacific 4 times and the Atlantic twice and had whatever I chose to read at my fingertips, which is as it should be. I am filled with pride at the thought that I overcame such lame firmware, I am proud that I didn't give up, that I "wasted my time" as you put it because to me, it wasn't a waste of time, it was and still is a worthy endeavor, one which I am not alone in trying to solve.

So, go lay down and accept whatever is given to you, and as I am sure every word of this will go over your head, all I can say is enjoy. Please continue the hate, because the fact that you feel the need to get your feelings of my "silliness" off your chest, just tells me I'm doing the right thing.

voidIndigo · 12-27-2009, 05:07 PM

Sealbeater, you said it all!!!

Why accept boundaries imposed by the stupidity of others? I can hardly accept my own!!

BTW, I don't see the problem with having more books than you can read. In fact, there's even a name for it. It's called "Library". It's quite a new concept, so no wonder some people didn't hear about them.

Quoting Koothrappali: "What a douche!"

[]´s

void Indigo

hnoto · 12-28-2009, 01:29 AM

What I don't understand, is WHY there is such controversy about this subject? If you want to use your Reader to store only the books you are currently reading or want to get to this week/month/year, great! If you want your Reader to act more like a library, where you have access to your books at any time, and have the time/temperament/desire to make it work out for you, great too! Why should one group be soooo anti the other group?

DrMoze, you aren't the only one who has been quite condescending to Sealbeater and the rest of us who want our Readers to be libraries; just the latest in this thread. I haven't noticed any of the "librarians" saying that the others are WRONG for not wanting to carry their whole library with them. We have different needs---so what? If you aren't interested in this idea, why read this thread anyway??

I for one appreciate what he has accomplished.

Dr. Drib · 12-29-2009, 05:50 AM

Everyone has his or her own passion. Sealbeater's passion is not my passion; however, I applaud him for his experiment.

I like to put 100 or so (or more ebooks) on my Readers, but I have no intention of reading them all within the next year, as there are just too many to accomplish that goal. I like the idea of having a large library on my Reader, and in knowing that I can selectively choose what to read.

When one thinks about it, in one sense he's doing nothing more than what one might do with a book collection software (calibre or what-have-you): We put the books in the software and play around with it to our heart's content, reorganizing, sorting, deleting. The only difference is that this "software" [Sony Reader] is also capable of allowing one to READ what he puts on it.

So this is no big deal at all, whether it's one book or 30,000. Get that many books on one Reader, and people WILL start to take notice.

Don

JWLaRue · 12-29-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sealbeater

The limitation on books is a result of bad programming, nothing that the 505 is physically incapable of doing.

I've seen this statement several times now and really disagree with it.

The limitation sucks, but I don't think any of us are in a postion to blame the programmers. Having serveral decades of experience in the creation of simple-to-complex IT systems, I would place the blame on whomever set out the requirements for the Reader software. The poor programmers almost certainly just did what they were told.

-Jeff

richman · 12-30-2009, 11:31 PM

This topic started a long time ago.
With the folders hack, and the "noscan" file that is placed on the SD card, I have thousands of books on my 505 and it's quick and easy to load any one of those books onto the internal memory of 505 in a few seconds , then delete the book from internal memory when I want, and it's still on the SD card.
I have 300 or so folders on SD card with authors as FOLDER name and then it opens into books author wrote.
Keeps it simple and easy.
And since with "noscan" , it takes no time to scan a SD card and probably saves battery since the books I'm reading are from the internal memory.

jabberwock_11 · 12-31-2009, 11:05 PM

I think that one of the reasons for having a large number of books on your device is security. I have had my computer's hard drive crash twice in the last year and would have lost many of my books had I not had them stored on my 505. I am paranoid about the possible lose of my library and have had instances where some books were lost and past the date where they could be redownloaded from the original sources. It's good to have digital anything stored in more than one location.

sealbeater · 01-02-2010, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richman

This topic started a long time ago.
With the folders hack, and the "noscan" file that is placed on the SD card, I have thousands of books on my 505 and it's quick and easy to load any one of those books onto the internal memory of 505 in a few seconds , then delete the book from internal memory when I want, and it's still on the SD card.
I have 300 or so folders on SD card with authors as FOLDER name and then it opens into books author wrote.
Keeps it simple and easy.
And since with "noscan" , it takes no time to scan a SD card and probably saves battery since the books I'm reading are from the internal memory.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I've tried the folders hack with noscan and it still stalls out at around 2 thousand books. If and when the author gets it to the point where it can load the cache.xml file without rescaning the card, this might be the way to go, as you can create the cache.xml file though other means. As it stands now, the "noscan" option acts as a simple file manager but you have to copy the book from SD to internal memory so that's a bit kludgy but it would work if it could actually load thousands of books. The firmware still seems to suffer from the same symptoms but I'm going to load books slow, I've done a bit of experimentation but haven't really had a chance to dig into it, maybe this weekend.

Your right tho, this thread did start a long time ago, I'm glad the author of the folders hack is working on it as well, it would be very nice.

sealbeater · 01-02-2010, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jabberwock_11

It's good to have digital anything stored in more than one location.

AMEN!

elcreative · 01-02-2010, 10:21 AM

Not quite sure what you're doing but using the last but one set of hacks I have approx 25k of books on an SD card (around 35% full) organised in alpha folders then split to sub-alpha then by author... works like a charm... I can find a book far faster than when I had 6.5k on with standard Sony system... and even moving to IM and getting ready to read, is still faster than find and start on normal system.

Better still, the whole reader responds more quickly without the overhead of managing many files itself... and you can make subject specific cards as no wait for rescan when changing...

Oh yes, I tested with a few books then tried around 2k before going for it and loaded the 25k on a 16GB SDHC card in one go... tooks while to copy as you'd expect but went perfectly...

I now have what I wanted... a library in my pocket where I choose what I want to read when I want to read rather than having to choose a selection beforehand... as someone else said... a library...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sealbeater

Not to beat a dead horse, but I've tried the folders hack with noscan and it still stalls out at around 2 thousand books. If and when the author gets it to the point where it can load the cache.xml file without rescaning the card, this might be the way to go, as you can create the cache.xml file though other means. As it stands now, the "noscan" option acts as a simple file manager but you have to copy the book from SD to internal memory so that's a bit kludgy but it would work if it could actually load thousands of books. The firmware still seems to suffer from the same symptoms but I'm going to load books slow, I've done a bit of experimentation but haven't really had a chance to dig into it, maybe this weekend.

Your right tho, this thread did start a long time ago, I'm glad the author of the folders hack is working on it as well, it would be very nice.

richman · 01-02-2010, 04:26 PM

Yeah, I think the guy that had the 2,000 book limit may not have put the noscan file in the SD card.
I had to have help in learning how to make the "noscan" file and if you look in development thread, someone toward end of thread told me how to make it. Once made, it was simple and doesn't take ANY TIME to scan the card because it doesn't scan the card.
I have no problem going through folders and then books in folder, and it takes under 5 seconds to copy the book to internal memory , a lot less time than ordering the book from amazon.

And the book is still stored on sc card and so I'm free to delete from internal memory any time I want.
I guess I'm just giving a HEADS UP to those of you who have the 505 , you can now put 1,000's of books on your SD card and take it with you , and read it too (from internal memory)

12-21-2009, 03:39 AM	#76
AprilHare Wizard Posts: 2,981 Karma: 11862367 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS-T2	I wonder if this large book collection discussion applies to the PRS-500 with firmware upgrade too? I should be clear: before the firmware upgrade, I put a very large collection on my memory stick - and it became slow as molasses and downright unstable. ATM I have 300 odd books on it - and am thinking about reintroducing my large collection of e-books.. Last edited by AprilHare; 12-21-2009 at 03:57 AM.

12-21-2009, 04:35 PM	#77
sealbeater Banned Posts: 666 Karma: 1752814 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS-505 : Onyx Boox Max : Sony PRS-900 : Onyx Kepler Pro	I've never seen the slightest difference in either responsiveness or battery life, and I've had this 505 for about 2 years now. I don't have a 500 so I dont' know, but you can try some of the strategies posted earlier in the thread. Last edited by sealbeater; 12-21-2009 at 04:38 PM.

12-29-2009, 05:50 AM	#83
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,441 Karma: 59592133 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	Everyone has his or her own passion. Sealbeater's passion is not my passion; however, I applaud him for his experiment. I like to put 100 or so (or more ebooks) on my Readers, but I have no intention of reading them all within the next year, as there are just too many to accomplish that goal. I like the idea of having a large library on my Reader, and in knowing that I can selectively choose what to read. When one thinks about it, in one sense he's doing nothing more than what one might do with a book collection software (calibre or what-have-you): We put the books in the software and play around with it to our heart's content, reorganizing, sorting, deleting. The only difference is that this "software" [Sony Reader] is also capable of allowing one to READ what he puts on it. So this is no big deal at all, whether it's one book or 30,000. Get that many books on one Reader, and people WILL start to take notice. Don Last edited by Dr. Drib; 12-29-2009 at 09:37 AM.

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voidIndigo Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 20 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brazil Device: Sony PRS 505, REB 1200, Kobo Glo	Sealbeater, you said it all!!! Why accept boundaries imposed by the stupidity of others? I can hardly accept my own!! BTW, I don't see the problem with having more books than you can read. In fact, there's even a name for it. It's called "Library". It's quite a new concept, so no wonder some people didn't hear about them. Quoting Koothrappali: "What a douche!" []´s void Indigo

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hnoto Groupie Posts: 194 Karma: 177180 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Device: Sony PRS 505	What I don't understand, is WHY there is such controversy about this subject? If you want to use your Reader to store only the books you are currently reading or want to get to this week/month/year, great! If you want your Reader to act more like a library, where you have access to your books at any time, and have the time/temperament/desire to make it work out for you, great too! Why should one group be soooo anti the other group? DrMoze, you aren't the only one who has been quite condescending to Sealbeater and the rest of us who want our Readers to be libraries; just the latest in this thread. I haven't noticed any of the "librarians" saying that the others are WRONG for not wanting to carry their whole library with them. We have different needs---so what? If you aren't interested in this idea, why read this thread anyway?? I for one appreciate what he has accomplished.

12-30-2009, 11:31 PM	#85
richman Addict Posts: 269 Karma: 58 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: sony prs-505 BLUE,itouch,netbook	This topic started a long time ago. With the folders hack, and the "noscan" file that is placed on the SD card, I have thousands of books on my 505 and it's quick and easy to load any one of those books onto the internal memory of 505 in a few seconds , then delete the book from internal memory when I want, and it's still on the SD card. I have 300 or so folders on SD card with authors as FOLDER name and then it opens into books author wrote. Keeps it simple and easy. And since with "noscan" , it takes no time to scan a SD card and probably saves battery since the books I'm reading are from the internal memory.

12-31-2009, 11:05 PM	#86
jabberwock_11 Addict Posts: 231 Karma: 1591305 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Savannah, GA USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Aluratek Libre Pro	I think that one of the reasons for having a large number of books on your device is security. I have had my computer's hard drive crash twice in the last year and would have lost many of my books had I not had them stored on my 505. I am paranoid about the possible lose of my library and have had instances where some books were lost and past the date where they could be redownloaded from the original sources. It's good to have digital anything stored in more than one location.

01-02-2010, 04:26 PM	#90
richman Addict Posts: 269 Karma: 58 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: sony prs-505 BLUE,itouch,netbook	Yeah, I think the guy that had the 2,000 book limit may not have put the noscan file in the SD card. I had to have help in learning how to make the "noscan" file and if you look in development thread, someone toward end of thread told me how to make it. Once made, it was simple and doesn't take ANY TIME to scan the card because it doesn't scan the card. I have no problem going through folders and then books in folder, and it takes under 5 seconds to copy the book to internal memory , a lot less time than ordering the book from amazon. And the book is still stored on sc card and so I'm free to delete from internal memory any time I want. I guess I'm just giving a HEADS UP to those of you who have the 505 , you can now put 1,000's of books on your SD card and take it with you , and read it too (from internal memory)