I just saw the Entourage eDGe

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

2.75 pounds - right around what my Dell Mini 12 runs. I *love* my Mini 12!

Now that I've seen more photos of it, I'm thinking I should reserve one.

Derek

If it ran Windows, I'd be right up there with you. I don't have anything against Android, mind you (or Linux, or Mac), but the fact remains, Android doesn't yet have the apps to read all the formats; and I'm not gambling that developers will get to those in a timely manner.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

If it ran Windows, I'd be right up there with you. I don't have anything against Android, mind you (or Linux, or Mac), but the fact remains, Android doesn't yet have the apps to read all the formats; and I'm not gambling that developers will get to those in a timely manner.

Do we know what formats it supports out of the box?

BOb

[soilwork]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Do we know what formats it supports out of the box?

BOb

According to the specification page, enTourage eDGe supports epub and PDF.
http://www.entourageedge.com/devices...rage-edge.html

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by soilwork

According to the specification page, enTourage eDGe supports epub and PDF.
http://www.entourageedge.com/devices...rage-edge.html

Interesting. I just went to that site and to the "new" ebooks tab and it looks almost identical to the Sony Bookstore....

[calvin-c]

In terms of the books that are listed, or simply appearance? I've seen many sites that obviously use the same software but have widely different content (forums are a definite example). It would seem strange, to me, if the enTourage site listed the same books as Sony-unless they're getting their books from Sony (and I have no idea why they would do that, if they are).

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by calvin-c

In terms of the books that are listed, or simply appearance? I've seen many sites that obviously use the same software but have widely different content (forums are a definite example). It would seem strange, to me, if the enTourage site listed the same books as Sony-unless they're getting their books from Sony (and I have no idea why they would do that, if they are).

Both, that's what struck me about it. Same books offered, (including Google), same images, slightly different layout, same categories etc. ...

https://ebookstore.sony.com/mb_us/Homepage.flow

and

http://www.entourageedge.com/e-books.html

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

If it ran Windows, I'd be right up there with you. I don't have anything against Android, mind you (or Linux, or Mac), but the fact remains, Android doesn't yet have the apps to read all the formats; and I'm not gambling that developers will get to those in a timely manner.

Well, I'm not so sure... After all, the Amazon, Sony, iRex, Netronix and Hanlin ebook readers (in Kindle, PRS, Cybook, Cool-er, Astak, BeBook and other flavors) all run some variant of Linux - and they work quite fine as ebook readers. Plus, with the LCD screen, it clearly can run many Android/Linux apps... I'm willing to give it a chance.

Derek

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

Well, I'm not so sure... After all, the Amazon, Sony, iRex, Netronix and Hanlin ebook readers (in Kindle, PRS, Cybook, Cool-er, Astak, BeBook and other flavors) all run some variant of Linux - and they work quite fine as ebook readers. Plus, with the LCD screen, it clearly can run many Android/Linux apps... I'm willing to give it a chance.

Derek

Derek, I think my previous post was as clear as mud. I'm going to blame it on this cold that's still hanging on.
Anyway - yes, I realize all those function quite well as ereaders, but I guess I'm looking for the whole enchilada. I don't want another device that only reads a couple of DRM'd formats. I want a tablet or dual screen device like this that reads everything. Unfortunately, at this point in time, to do that - it has to run Windows.
As far as I know (and please, correct me if I'm wrong, I'd be thrilled to be wrong on this occasion), Windows is the only OS that supports every DRM'd ebook format software out there with no conversions necessary.

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

Derek, I think my previous post was as clear as mud. I'm going to blame it on this cold that's still hanging on.
Anyway - yes, I realize all those function quite well as ereaders, but I guess I'm looking for the whole enchilada. I don't want another device that only reads a couple of DRM'd formats. I want a tablet or dual screen device like this that reads everything. Unfortunately, at this point in time, to do that - it has to run Windows.
As far as I know (and please, correct me if I'm wrong, I'd be thrilled to be wrong on this occasion), Windows is the only OS that supports every DRM'd ebook format software out there with no conversions necessary.

Having just downloaded the latest firmware updates for the Cybook Gen3, I can POSITIVELY state that the Cybook now (and I'm running a first-version 64MB Gen3) supports ePub, Mobi/prc, FB2, TXT, HTML and PDF. (Yeah, yeah... I know, that doesn't include LIT, RTF, Word Doc, or a plethora of 'lesser-known' formats - nor Amazon's TOPAZ - but yest to the Mobi version of AZW - once you change the extension.)

And frankly, I don't really give a s**t that the Cybook won't read .imp or .lit, or .rb... I don't *have* any! So if the Cybook can read these ebook formats, then I'm pretty sure that the EDGE can be made to do so - under Linux.

So pardon me if I get out my copy of the World's Tiniest Violin to play in pity for your desires.

Derek

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

Derek, I think my previous post was as clear as mud. I'm going to blame it on this cold that's still hanging on.
Anyway - yes, I realize all those function quite well as ereaders, but I guess I'm looking for the whole enchilada. I don't want another device that only reads a couple of DRM'd formats. I want a tablet or dual screen device like this that reads everything. Unfortunately, at this point in time, to do that - it has to run Windows.

I'm not sure why you need something that supports EVERY format. Seems to be you need ADE and B&N Reader and you can pretty much get any ebook you want in one of those formats. I think ADE will support the B&N Books soon, if it doesn't already.

Alas, Adobe DE doesn't have a Linux version if I understand correctly. Although I'm not sure why... I can't imagine it would be hard to get the OS X Version working on Linux.

BOb

[LDBoblo]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Really why? Does the PixelQi screen work without drawing power except for page turns? I really doubt it is able to do that and that you could get a usable 16 hours out of a dual PixelQi screen device.

Even the netbooks today that claim 8 hour battery in real use get more like 4 or 5.

BOb

It's about equally unlikely that the Edge will achieve its stated runtime, and e-ink's bistability does not mean the device will not draw power between refreshes. And while I wouldn't be surprised at all by a 16-hour netbook with Pixel Qi, many users would still find a slightly shorter battery life better as they can be twice as productive anyway.

And I said a Pixel-Qi netbook anyway, not a dual screen device. There's relatively little need for a dual screen device like this when you don't have the horrible bottlenecking of Vizplex. I think Mirasol would make a better candidate for a dual screen device than Pixel Qi.

[Marcy]

Originally Posted by mgm1979

How many hours of reading do you need to get out of an eBook, exactly? 16+ hrs seems like MORE than enough time to last between charges...

And when it comes to working on documents and such, DataViz AND Google both have Android OS options for achieving this...

Remember, this is NOT meant to replace your laptop, but serve as a watered down solution for surfing the web, light email work, and maybe handle some media here and there...the potential here is quite impressive - the REAL concern is with the whole first generation device thing...how good/quick will their support be and resolving the inevitable bugs that get past testing and into production units?

That's just my point -- if it isn't going to replace my laptop that only weighs 1 pound more and is much more powerful, than what is the point? I already have the laptop which I can do all my computer work on.

The best part of a dedicated e-reader is that it is light and portable and low-maintenance, not needed to be charged frequently. I brought my Kindle with me on a 3 week trip to Tanzania and was able to read the whole time, even though I was unable to charge once. Plus it is light enough to easily hold in one hand for a long time, just like a paperback.

So, again I have to say I think this device really doesn't serve much of a need -- you can get dedicated devices that fit their respective tasks much better. Just MHO of course.

-Marcy

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

Having just downloaded the latest firmware updates for the Cybook Gen3, I can POSITIVELY state that the Cybook now (and I'm running a first-version 64MB Gen3) supports ePub, Mobi/prc, FB2, TXT, HTML and PDF. (Yeah, yeah... I know, that doesn't include LIT, RTF, Word Doc, or a plethora of 'lesser-known' formats - nor Amazon's TOPAZ - but yest to the Mobi version of AZW - once you change the extension.)

And frankly, I don't really give a s**t that the Cybook won't read .imp or .lit, or .rb... I don't *have* any! So if the Cybook can read these ebook formats, then I'm pretty sure that the EDGE can be made to do so - under Linux.

So pardon me if I get out my copy of the World's Tiniest Violin to play in pity for your desires.

Derek

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go for it, Derek, I'll clap along as you play

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I'm not sure why you need something that supports EVERY format. Seems to be you need ADE and B&N Reader and you can pretty much get any ebook you want in one of those formats. I think ADE will support the B&N Books soon, if it doesn't already.

Alas, Adobe DE doesn't have a Linux version if I understand correctly. Although I'm not sure why... I can't imagine it would be hard to get the OS X Version working on Linux.

BOb

Didn't say I needed, said I wanted. And I guess it's just cause I've gotten spoiled with the netbook I have. *Shrugs* Tomato, Tomahto, and all that jazz - What I want/need isn't going to match anyone else's wants/needs and that's fine with me; it'd be a pretty boring world if we all liked and disliked the same things .

[mgm1979]

No, Marcy - I think you're missing the point, dear...this device is meant to combine the luxuries of an eReader and a NETBOOK, at best - NOT a laptop. I have no intentions of ridding myself of my laptop as far as heavy usage is concerned, but as far as having a device to kill some time with web surfing at an airport or local Hotspot, then this could be the way to go - no need to lug my netbook around anymore, which is WAY too bulky to be an eReader.

Make sense?