The Grand Experiment! - Page 2

HarryT · 12-18-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kwjones

I can't think of a single paper book that I own that does not have full justification. I havn't been able to get past the justification in epub yet.

What's what I meant when I said before that the Sony perhaps isn't the ideal choice for getting to know ePub, since that's a limitation of the Sony, not of the ePub format.

kwjones · 12-18-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What's what I meant when I said before that the Sony perhaps isn't the ideal choice for getting to know ePub, since that's a limitation of the Sony, not of the ePub format.

Agreed.

JSWolf · 12-18-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

What's what I meant when I said before that the Sony perhaps isn't the ideal choice for getting to know ePub, since that's a limitation of the Sony, not of the ePub format.

I've been reading ePub and I don't find the lack of full justification an issue. I don't miss the wide open spaces full justification without hyphenation can give.

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JSWolf · 12-18-2009, 03:19 PM

Daffy, if you need any help, I'd be happy to lend a hand.

tech_au · 12-18-2009, 04:36 PM

As the others have said when I convert ebooks in Calibre I prefer to use LRF rather than EPUB as the output format because it looks better on the reader and I have a pet peeve about page numbering. In LRF it will say 800 pages but in EPUB it will say 300 pages(of which there are 2 or 3 sub pages per page).
However I have found that Sony LRX ebooks have the font set too small or the margins too wide(some of the newer ones have a smaller margin).
I guess that is not an issue now since they switched to epub now.

dreams · 12-18-2009, 05:06 PM

Wow, sis, welcome to my world.

I, too, prefer lrf > lrx > ePub. Epub is last only when it is poorly made. I hate when the font size is enlarged and you end up with big empty space margins and only 3 or 4 words per line. My other gripe is that not all publishers take the time to convert from a good beginning source to get a nice looking ePub. So, not all ePubs look the same or even have the same font size. I always try the ePub first and if I don't like it, I use whatever else is available to try for my 505. I wish I knew how to do my own "tweeking" to get nice looking books.

Some of the nonDRM ePubs look beautiful. Try Zelda's, "Three Men in a Boat" and pdurrant's published "Desbarollda, The Waltzing Mouse" (for purchase, but he will send you HIS ePub version if you have bought the book)

My understanding (from reading some posts by Adobe and MR members) is that the rendering of ePub is in transition. So the look of ePub on the Sony is a software problem and will need the update. Supposedly, it will be available to all Companies sometime in 2010. (Some threads that have information on ePub that is useful to know for 505 owners also):
The new ePub DRM

Why is it good that Sony went epub?

daffy4u · 12-18-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dreams

Wow, sis, welcome to my world.

Now, if I could convince you to buy a Kindle, the world be in balance again and we'd be true twins. BTW, I hope you won't hold it against me that I will have a Silver instead of Blue 505.

Thanks for the links!

daffy4u · 12-18-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Daffy, if you need any help, I'd be happy to lend a hand.

Okay, here's your first question. The seller said they've owned the 505 for 6 months. How can tell if the firmware has been upgraded to read ePub? I found and downloaded the firmware so I'm ready if I need to do the upgrade myself.

Also, I forgot to ask the seller if she de-registered it before it was shipped. I recall reading that there is a way to de-register and re-register it in my name but I can't find the thread. Do you know how to do it?

JSWolf · 12-18-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Okay, here's your first question. The seller said they've owned the 505 for 6 months. How can tell if the firmware has been upgraded to read ePub? I found and downloaded the firmware so I'm ready if I need to do the upgrade myself.

Also, I forgot to ask the seller if she de-registered it before it was shipped. I recall reading that there is a way to de-register and re-register it in my name but I can't find the thread. Do you know how to do it?

I believe you want to have firware 1.1.00.18040 or later. If you do, then you have ePub support.

What you do is try to authorize the 505 under your account at the eBookstore and if it works, then you are good to go. Otherwise, give Sony a call at ...

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You can also call us at 877-263-2863 during the hours of:

9:00am - 11pm, EST; Monday - Friday and 11:00am - 6:00pm EST; Saturday and Sunday

It is faster to have the activation sorted while you wait on the phone then it is to email support.

dreams · 12-18-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Now, if I could convince you to buy a Kindle, the world be in balance again and we'd be true twins. BTW, I hope you won't hold it against me that I will have a Silver instead of Blue 505.

Thanks for the links!

Wait....What?

I thought you said you were getting me the Kindle for Christmas!!??

Hum...

I know, I know.... same problem as with that painting I wanted for our birthday. I swear, if I go visit you and I see that painting on your wall, I won't type to you for the rest of the year.

PS... It's OK you have the Silver one.. I've always wanted to have something better than my sis..

yekim54 · 12-18-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Okay, here's your first question. The seller said they've owned the 505 for 6 months. How can tell if the firmware has been upgraded to read ePub? I found and downloaded the firmware so I'm ready if I need to do the upgrade myself.

Select "Settings" from the main menu on the 505. Then select "About". The firmware version number will be listed at the top of this page.

pilotbob · 12-18-2009, 07:02 PM

Oh Daffy...

You will have to do the Sony PRS-505 myths Wiki now.

BOb

daffy4u · 12-18-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Oh Daffy...

You will have to do the Sony PRS-500 myths Wiki now.

BOb

I think not.

pilotbob · 12-18-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

I think not.

Then you will have to get a nook to do a Nook myths... and... and...

BOb

tech_au · 12-18-2009, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

Now, if I could convince you to buy a Kindle, the world be in balance again and we'd be true twins. BTW, I hope you won't hold it against me that I will have a Silver instead of Blue 505.

Thanks for the links!

Since you have now hunkered down behind enemy lines

I'll forgive you for getting the silver one rather than the SO COOL Blue.
Oops better not start another colour war

12-18-2009, 05:06 PM	#21
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	Wow, sis, welcome to my world. I, too, prefer lrf > lrx > ePub. Epub is last only when it is poorly made. I hate when the font size is enlarged and you end up with big empty space margins and only 3 or 4 words per line. My other gripe is that not all publishers take the time to convert from a good beginning source to get a nice looking ePub. So, not all ePubs look the same or even have the same font size. I always try the ePub first and if I don't like it, I use whatever else is available to try for my 505. I wish I knew how to do my own "tweeking" to get nice looking books. Some of the nonDRM ePubs look beautiful. Try Zelda's, "Three Men in a Boat" and pdurrant's published "Desbarollda, The Waltzing Mouse" (for purchase, but he will send you HIS ePub version if you have bought the book) My understanding (from reading some posts by Adobe and MR members) is that the rendering of ePub is in transition. So the look of ePub on the Sony is a software problem and will need the update. Supposedly, it will be available to all Companies sometime in 2010. (Some threads that have information on ePub that is useful to know for 505 owners also): The new ePub DRM Why is it good that Sony went epub? Last edited by dreams; 12-18-2009 at 05:24 PM. Reason: Fixed links

12-18-2009, 07:02 PM	#27
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Oh Daffy... You will have to do the Sony PRS-505 myths Wiki now. BOb Last edited by pilotbob; 12-18-2009 at 07:06 PM.

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tech_au Oz Bookworm Posts: 516 Karma: 4056 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Device: Sony PRS 505,PRS 650	As the others have said when I convert ebooks in Calibre I prefer to use LRF rather than EPUB as the output format because it looks better on the reader and I have a pet peeve about page numbering. In LRF it will say 800 pages but in EPUB it will say 300 pages(of which there are 2 or 3 sub pages per page). However I have found that Sony LRX ebooks have the font set too small or the margins too wide(some of the newer ones have a smaller margin). I guess that is not an issue now since they switched to epub now.