Notion Ink smartpad aims to be first Pixel Qi device

Crowl · 12-18-2009, 08:17 AM

10.1" screen on android-based tablet, so plenty of bells and whistles for those who want them, but no mention of specific ebook reading support out of the box.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/18/n...irst-pixel-qi/

sergiodongala · 12-18-2009, 08:56 AM

Thats good.
This way perhaps e-ink prices will have to drope, because there is only one company that
can do it now.
Do you guys know when will the patent of e-ink finish?
It will be good to see the prices droping.

TallMomof2 · 12-18-2009, 08:58 AM

Be still my beating heart.

wallcraft · 12-18-2009, 09:39 AM

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48 hours of battery standby juice, also good for 8 hours of HD video playback or 16 hours of WiFi-enabled Engadget reading

This blows away the DR1000S in everything except weight (27oz vs 20oz), and perhaps note taking. Large screen EInk devices may be arriving in volume a year too late.

This would make a fantastic magazine delivery device.

B&N (actually eReader at present) have a beta stand-alone Android Reader, and the Nook runs Android. Amazon probably has an Android Reader in the works. I was arguing that vendors needed to get with the Android program based on momentum in the cell phone market, but I was looking in the wrong direction. Android is the clear early leader in the non-Windows tablet race.

BKeeper · 12-18-2009, 10:20 AM

Wow... Just what I expected. Merry Christmas.

This made my day.

I couldn't find a launch date, but it seems we'll have to wait a bit, hard spec isn't final yet.

HarryT · 12-18-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

This blows away the DR1000S in everything except weight (27oz vs 20oz), and perhaps note taking.

Other than the small matter that the iRex DR1000S is a real product. This is just a CGI image; it doesn't actually exist yet.

Shaggy · 12-18-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Other than the small matter that the iRex DR1000S is a real product. This is just a CGI image; it doesn't actually exist yet.

Also the Pixel Qi screen doesn't really compare well against eInk in it's pure reflective mode. I see this device as a competitor to current tablets/notebooks, not really eInk.

kjk · 12-18-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sergiodongala

Do you guys know when will the patent of e-ink finish?

Patents are for 20 years.
E Ink has over 100 patents related to e-ink, and add more every year. I'm pretty sure they started in the late 90s, so you've got a bit of a wait for even their first basic ones to expire.

wallcraft · 12-18-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Also the Pixel Qi screen doesn't really compare well against eInk in it's pure reflective mode. I see this device as a competitor to current tablets/notebooks, not really eInk.

I agree that EInk has an edge as a large screen dedicated ebook reader, but the likes of the DR1000S and (even more so) the Que are also pushing into "tablet" territory. PVI will have to get the cost of an 9.7" EInk screen down to somewhere close to a Pixel Que screen if it wants to be in anything more than the executive toy market. This may be happening, the enTourage eDGe is $490 with EInk and LCD screens.

Shaggy · 12-18-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

I agree that EInk has an edge as a large screen dedicated ebook reader, but the likes of the DR1000S and (even more so) the Que are also pushing into "tablet" territory.

Size wise. But as far as functionality they're still very different markets.

badbob001 · 12-18-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

PVI will have to get the cost of an 9.7" EInk screen down to somewhere close to a Pixel Que screen if it wants to be in anything more than the executive toy market.

How much does a Pixel Qi screen cost compared to a PVI one of similar size?

Shaggy · 12-18-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by badbob001

How much does a Pixel Qi screen cost compared to a PVI one of similar size?

I don't know if anybody has real numbers on how much the device companies are paying for a large production order.

badbob001 · 12-18-2009, 12:54 PM

I got excited when I read that it can play 1080p videos. Unfortunately, they have to be down sampled to fit the screen's 1024x600 resolution (color). But mentions that reflective mode (no color) has three times the resolution... no idea what weird resolution that comes out to be, but it's higher than any available e-ink display.

Shaggy · 12-18-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by badbob001

But mentions that reflective mode (no color) has three times the resolution... no idea what weird resolution that comes out to be, but it's higher than any available e-ink display.

From what I've seen, and comments from Pixel Qi as well, contrast isn't very good though. I'm not sure B&W with poor contrast is a good fit for HD video.

Dylrob · 12-19-2009, 01:01 AM

Huh, so we finally have some specs on the displays themselves. 1024x600 for color is just a tad bit disappointing... though it's basically the standard for 10.1" netbooks anyways (with few exceptions).

I can't say I find this tablet particularly interesting. But then I'm really waiting for a Windows based machine.

12-18-2009, 08:17 AM	#1
Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	Notion Ink smartpad aims to be first Pixel Qi device 10.1" screen on android-based tablet, so plenty of bells and whistles for those who want them, but no mention of specific ebook reading support out of the box. http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/18/n...irst-pixel-qi/

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Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	Huh, so we finally have some specs on the displays themselves. 1024x600 for color is just a tad bit disappointing... though it's basically the standard for 10.1" netbooks anyways (with few exceptions). I can't say I find this tablet particularly interesting. But then I'm really waiting for a Windows based machine. Last edited by Dylrob; 12-19-2009 at 01:05 AM.

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sergiodongala Connoisseur Posts: 68 Karma: 160 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Angola Device: PRS-505	Thats good. This way perhaps e-ink prices will have to drope, because there is only one company that can do it now. Do you guys know when will the patent of e-ink finish? It will be good to see the prices droping.

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badbob001 Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1102020 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: Kindle Keyboard (rip), Kindle Voyage, Fire Tablet 10 '17, iPad '19	I got excited when I read that it can play 1080p videos. Unfortunately, they have to be down sampled to fit the screen's 1024x600 resolution (color). But mentions that reflective mode (no color) has three times the resolution... no idea what weird resolution that comes out to be, but it's higher than any available e-ink display.