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Old 12-17-2009, 07:41 PM   #16
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Even the phones are shedding their keyboards this time of year, why would you want keyboard on the device primarily used for reading is beyond me.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:17 PM   #17
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Oh, I don't know, maybe because some people want tactile feedback while typing, don't want fingerprints on the screen, have large fingers that dont do too well with touch screens.......
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Well, I bet there were hard-core proponents of the rotary-dial phones back in the day too.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:41 PM   #19
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Well, I bet there were hard-core proponents of the rotary-dial phones back in the day too.

@ stangri,

So having fingers too large for a touch screen isn't a legitimate reason as to why some might not prefer it? It's not nostalgia for an artifact terribly antiquated by some awesome new technology that eliminates all the issues of that which came before, it's a matter of ease of use and preference, which comes down to the individual.

I don't like touch screens in general, and when I tried out the nook's at the store, I couldn't possibly imagine using it to actually type out notes regardless of the length on the thing. Can I manage? Yes. But I definitely would rather not have to deal with it.

The buttons on my Dx (not my K2, those are a little too flat and not raised enough) suit me perfectly.

But to each his/her own.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:57 AM   #20
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i'm told that the Nook has slipped again for a bunch of people, and that B&N isn't letting them cancel the orders, claiming they have already shipped... yet they cannot provide tracking. then a week later, it slips, again no tracking. no cancelations.

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Old 12-18-2009, 01:36 PM   #21
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...Kindle 2? My nook won't be here until mid Jan and considering all the problems Im not so sure all the bugs will be gone by then. I basically just want a device that works. I don't need the frustration. I guess Ive been spoiled by Apple. What would you do and why? Thanks.
I canceled mine.

B&N kept delaying delivery to the point that I wouldn't receive my nook until the middle of next month (tentatively). I just got home from our local Office Depot with my new Sony PRS-600. It's charging and as soon as I finish here - I'm going ebook shopping.
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:42 PM   #22
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i'm told that the Nook has slipped again for a bunch of people, and that B&N isn't letting them cancel the orders, claiming they have already shipped... yet they cannot provide tracking. then a week later, it slips, again no tracking. no cancelations.

odd?


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I was able to cancel mine even as my batch started finally shipping from the Dec 11th pre-order group. I think I wound up canceling the night before it would ship.

I wanted to be excited for the nook, but the delays had given me a chance to see the real thing, and play with the Reader Touch Edition. So now I'll just wait and see how the PRS-900s shake out, myself.
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:06 PM   #23
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I was able to cancel mine even as my batch started finally shipping from the Dec 11th pre-order group. I think I wound up canceling the night before it would ship.

I wanted to be excited for the nook, but the delays had given me a chance to see the real thing, and play with the Reader Touch Edition. So now I'll just wait and see how the PRS-900s shake out, myself.
I had a chance to try out the 900 the other day and I rather like it.
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:50 PM   #24
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Even the phones are shedding their keyboards this time of year, why would you want keyboard on the device primarily used for reading is beyond me.
Obviously not a note-taker.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:30 AM   #25
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But I do think B&N is muddying up the waters by adding yet another DRM to ePub and I don't like any company having exclusive rights to eBooks unless it's the publisher of course.
B&N isn't what I would call a company only ebook store. They use eReader, I use it on my iPhone, my Palm, my Mac, my Jetbook and oh yes on my nook. I do not consider B&N a company only book store for the Nook and its ebook reading. I can get eReader format from all sorts of ebook stores. So unlike the Kindle who would make me buy all my secure ebooks from them, unlike the Sony who would make me buy all my secure ebooks from them, The Nook is okay with me buying my secure ebooks from others.

Not only the above, but at least the Nook and eReader are Mac friendly. Seems that eReader is willing to play with Macs but Mobi isn't. At least all the readers allow downloads from the computers.
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B&N isn't what I would call a company only ebook store. They use eReader, I use it on my iPhone, my Palm, my Mac, my Jetbook and oh yes on my nook. I do not consider B&N a company only book store for the Nook and its ebook reading. I can get eReader format from all sorts of ebook stores. So unlike the Kindle who would make me buy all my secure ebooks from them, unlike the Sony who would make me buy all my secure ebooks from them, The Nook is okay with me buying my secure ebooks from others.

Not only the above, but at least the Nook and eReader are Mac friendly. Seems that eReader is willing to play with Macs but Mobi isn't. At least all the readers allow downloads from the computers.
Agree. I think B&N will be the most popular source of ebooks very soon. They know what they do to win the battle with Amazon.
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Agree. I think B&N will be the most popular source of ebooks very soon. They know what they do to win the battle with Amazon.
Since they came very late to the game, I don't see them winning unless they strip DRM off their ebooks and start offering *everything* in the epub or better yet, in both epub and mobi.

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Clearly not on the device with a typical e-ink refresh rate I'm not.
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Since they came very late to the game, I don't see them winning unless they strip DRM off their ebooks and start offering *everything* in the epub or better yet, in both epub and mobi.
I think you're spot on here. This would give them a decided edge, especially if they did so while also staying competitive on price. They may also consider setting up their web store so that Kindle owners could buy books directly from them through their Kindles.
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Since they came very late to the game, I don't see them winning unless they strip DRM off their ebooks and start offering *everything* in the epub or better yet, in both epub and mobi.
I don't think that's going to be necessary. As soon as a couple more devices update to the new RMSDK, a no-brainer for device makers without their own store affiliation, B&N will have a huge marketing advantage. They'll be offering DRMed e-books (major publishers and new realeases) that will work on dedicated devices from a variety of suppliers.

While that won't really mean much to the tech-savvy crowd that already does DRM-removal and format-shifting, it will mean a lot to the waves of new users that will just be joining the ranks of customers over the next year or so.
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