The Vent and Rant Thread

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

In one of our local neighborhoods here the neighbors were complaining about all the speeding on the main access road and how they were concerned about being hit while walking on the side walk.

So, the "traffic calming" decision was to put speed humps (bumps) in.

After that, guess what... the residents complained about the speed bumps... so now they are taking them out.

Your tax dollars at work!!!

BOb

I hate to say it, but at least the taxes were going to things the voters wanted. Can't blame the government if the voters are idiots...
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Dennis

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

I hate to say it, but at least the taxes were going to things the voters wanted. Can't blame the government if the voters are idiots...
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Dennis

Unless you can claim the government did not properly educate the voters.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Unless you can claim the government did not properly educate the voters.

You can lead a voter to wisdom, but you cannot make him think.
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Dennis

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

You can lead a voter to wisdom, but you cannot make him think.
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Dennis

and nothing stinks worse than a wet voter.....oh wait, horse, wet horse.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

I hate to say it, but at least the taxes were going to things the voters wanted. Can't blame the government if the voters are idiots...
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Dennis

I think that depends on whether the voters agreed to that particular solution to the traffic problem.

Often it's better to not raise these types of issues at all; once the urban planners get going the 'solution' is generally worse than the problem imho.

I used to walk along a busy road that pedestrians found dangerous to cross. The 'solution' wasn't a crossing in a sensible place; it was a mile of barricades shepherding pedestrians to the nearest junction where they could cross in installments when the various traffic lights went red; and then walk the mile back to where they wanted to cross to in the first place.

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Often it's better to not raise these types of issues at all; once the urban planners get going the 'solution' is generally worse than the problem imho.

I discovered in a previous job that if you want to wind up urban and town planners, calling them surveyors works pretty well... Or at least it did for the couple I inadvertantly called surveyors...

I used to walk along a busy road that pedestrians found dangerous to cross. The 'solution' wasn't a crossing in a sensible place; it was a mile of barricades shepherding pedestrians to the nearest junction where they could cross in installments when the various traffic lights went red; and then walk the mile back to where they wanted to cross to in the first place.

There's a similar situation near here - except all the council has done to discourage people crossing at the dangerous spot is put a sign up saying it's dangerous. Unfortunately, as it's near two bus stops, people are going to carry on crossing there and ignore the crossings further up and down the road.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I think that depends on whether the voters agreed to that particular solution to the traffic problem.

They complained to their local government and said "Do something!" They did not specify what. In that case, you can argue that they did agree, as they left it to the government to come up with a solution.
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Dennis

[wodin]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Should my boiler have blue sparks going across the circuit board? No, I didn't think so either.

It's snowing, and I have no central heating. ARGH!!!!

Don't need no steenking boilers in the beautiful Sandwich Isles!

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by wodin

Don't need no steenking boilers in the beautiful Sandwich Isles!

's a bit of a long way to commute though...

[wodin]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

We had a roundabout(*) taken out near here a few years back - partly to prevent accidents, and partly to smooth traffic flow. Since then there have been more accidents and more congestion... The congestion is mostly down to very, very programming of the lights.

I thought that was because your roundabouts inexplicably go clockwise, while a proper traffic circle goes counter-clockwise.

I guess that's the difference between roundabouts and traffic circles.

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by wodin

Don't need no steenking boilers in the beautiful Sandwich Isles!

But you do get mayonnaise don't you.

[wodin]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I think that depends on whether the voters agreed to that particular solution to the traffic problem.

Often it's better to not raise these types of issues at all; once the urban planners get going the 'solution' is generally worse than the problem imho.

I used to walk along a busy road that pedestrians found dangerous to cross. The 'solution' wasn't a crossing in a sensible place; it was a mile of barricades shepherding pedestrians to the nearest junction where they could cross in installments when the various traffic lights went red; and then walk the mile back to where they wanted to cross to in the first place.

On most of the busy intersections here there are cross walks on only three of the four streets; saves money to not have to install walk signals on the fourth one. That means if you want to legally get to the bus stop on the other side of the street, you have to wait through three signals; and by that time your bus is long gone!

And the powers that be lament over the high number of pedestrian fatalities!

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by wodin

I thought that was because your roundabouts inexplicably go clockwise, while a proper traffic circle goes counter-clockwise.

I guess that's the difference between roundabouts and traffic circles.

We can do counter clockwise roundabouts too (admittedly at the same time as clockwise ones): The Hemel Hempstead magic roundabout (there's one in Swindon, too) - the traffic goes round the mini roundabouts clockwise, and around the main roundabout either way...

[wodin]

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

But you do get mayonnaise don't you.

Yes, but only Helman's "Real Mayonnaise"

[pshrynk]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

We can do counter clockwise roundabouts too (admittedly at the same time as clockwise ones): The Hemel Hempstead magic roundabout (there's one in Swindon, too) - the traffic goes round the mini roundabouts clockwise, and around the main roundabout either way...

I got a headache just trying to understand the map.