The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 466

kennyc · 12-13-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Problem is, that is generally not enough for me... I mean, 20Gb+ of pictures...

Well that's not gonna fit on a thumb drive either.

Wetdogeared · 12-13-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Well that's not gonna fit on a thumb drive either.

You can get 32GB and 64GB flash drives now. Not cheap though.

kennyc · 12-13-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

You can get 32GB and 64GB flash drives now. Not cheap though.

Man, talk about topic drift!

KK wanted to know how to send photos to family. I said cd or dvd. Someone said that's not big enough. ... well I guess that depends on how many photos you are sending. 20G is yeah bigger than a DVD but still if you are sending that many pics to family then it's still probably better to split them up and put them on a few DVDs -- way cheaper (as wetdogeared says) than buying a large flash drive or portable hard drive.

32G sd: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-...0712624&sr=1-1

64 GB usb: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataT...0712678&sr=1-1

kindlekitten · 12-13-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Problem is, that is generally not enough for me... I mean, 20Gb+ of pictures...

I guess project number one is figuring out just how large my storage needs will be! is there any kind of rule of thumb of x pictures are y in storage capacity?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyc

Man, talk about topic drift!

KK wanted to know how to send photos to family. I said cd or dvd. Someone said that's not big enough. ... well I guess that depends on how many photos you are sending. 20G is yeah bigger than a DVD but still if you are sending that many pics to family then it's still probably better to split them up and put them on a few DVDs -- way cheaper (as wetdogeared says) than buying a large flash drive or portable hard drive.

32G sd: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-...0712624&sr=1-1

64 GB usb: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataT...0712678&sr=1-1

wow! those are expensive! maybe a big one for me, make it the "master" storage device, then smaller devices to send out

Wetdogeared · 12-13-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

wow! those are expensive! maybe a big one for me, make it the "master" storage device, then smaller devices to send out

Sorry, I haven't looked at these lately.

They now make a 128MB flash drive. (Save 63%, now only $397.55

)

kindlekitten · 12-13-2009, 09:20 AM

giminy crickets!

and that's the SALEprice!

kennyc · 12-13-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Sorry, I haven't looked at these lately.

They now make a 128MB flash drive. (Save 63%, now only $397.55

)

I'll take two please.

kennyc · 12-13-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

giminy crickets!

and that's the SALEprice!

What I find interesting is that you can buy a complete Netbook with more storage capacity for that price or less.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AO...0714303&sr=1-2

kindlekitten · 12-13-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

What I find interesting is that you can buy a complete Netbook with more storage capacity for that price or less.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AO...0714303&sr=1-2

that is SO tempting!

DMcCunney · 12-13-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

ok, you lost me. I want to send pictures to relatives that I am going to be scanning. is my best bet disks or thumb drives?

Like I said, how big are the files, and how many do you expect to send to?

Sounds like the pictures will fit on a flash drive. The next question is how many relatives you'll be sending to. Like I said, CD/DVD media is a lot cheaper than flash drives.

And depending on number/size of photos, another option might be to upload them to something like a Flickr account, and send the relatives the URL. They can downloaded them from there.
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Dennis

DMcCunney · 12-13-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I guess project number one is figuring out just how large my storage needs will be! is there any kind of rule of thumb of x pictures are y in storage capacity?

Unless you know how big the average picture is, no. Pictures can range from tiny to humongous.

My low end digital camera saves to JPGs which average about 300KB each. I have a satellite photo taken by the Hubble space telescope which is over 100MB. (The original is a TIFF file, and only Photoshop would even open it. NASA also offered it as a JPG for general usage which was about 10MB.)

Your scanner is likely to save the images as TIFF files. TIFF files are good "raw" data storage formats, but are large. You will probably want to convert them to JPG or PNG for distribution. (I use a free, open source program called Paint.NET, intended to replace the standard Windows Paint progam to do such things, opening the image and doing Save As, but I believe the standard Windows Kodak photo viewer will do it, as will many other things.)

Once you have scanned and converted some pictures, you can get a feel for average size and storage requirements.
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Dennis

DMcCunney · 12-13-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

Yes but I'm thinking in terms of a 32 GB flash partition for the OS and applications to allow for rapid boot up and application loading and a much larger mechanical data partition (>100 GB) for all those ebooks and pics and movies and music and ....

32 Gb flash is relatively inexpensive, and in fact was/is the only storage on some netbooks like the early Asus's and the Asus T91. Which, by the way, is why I'm not interested in a T91; not enough storage. Now if it had a second mechanical drive ...

"Relatively inexpensive" is relative. PCs and laptops are commodities, with commodity level pricing. A laptop using a 32GB flash drive for OS/Applications and a standard HD for data will cost a fair bit more than one using only HD. Why should the customer pay the higher price? Unless you can provide a simple and compelling reason, they won't.

I passed on early ASUS models for a different reason. Linux and a flash drive was fine, but screen size wasn't. I wanted a 10" screen, and early ASUS models didn't have them.

The model for the netbook assumed it would primarly access the net, and your data would live elsewhere. For the purposes for which I'd use it, that's fine. I wouldn't need a lot of local storage, and if I needed more, a USB 2.0 external drive would be the ticket.
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Dennis

pilotbob · 12-13-2009, 02:47 PM

If you want to back up photos, I think Flickr is your best bet. I think it is like $20 a year for unlimited photos of unlimited size. Also, if you don't renew, the photos stay there.

BOb

kazbates · 12-13-2009, 04:42 PM

@KK ~ This may seem like a simple solution to all the techies

but I would scan my pictures into one directory and then check the size of that directory. It beats having to try and calculate or estimate the size of the picture files. Even if you have to send multiple discs, using write-only CD or DVDs would seem like the least expensive option and they are fairly easy to mail in one of those bubble mailers.

DawnFalcon · 12-13-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvick

Kitten schmitten, wait until you have a four foot, 10 pound iguana climb all the way from your foot to the top of your head!! Having experienced both I would submit that their claws are sharper and longer.

Probably still dosn't sting as badly as being bitten by a grass snake, though. It's like a really deep papercut.

Oh, and I backup onto a hard disk in a USB-interface bay which is connected to my router (Asus WL500g, with Oleg's Firmware). Works fine, and total cost is well below even a cheap NAS (and it uses a server-designed Maxtor Maxline HDD, not the cheaper consumer hard disks cheap NAS's come with these days).

Heck, you can get an ASUS router with a *built in* hard disk if you're lazy...

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pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	If you want to back up photos, I think Flickr is your best bet. I think it is like $20 a year for unlimited photos of unlimited size. Also, if you don't renew, the photos stay there. BOb

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kazbates Wizard Posts: 2,627 Karma: 406616 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Device: SurfacePro, SurfaceBook 2	@KK ~ This may seem like a simple solution to all the techies but I would scan my pictures into one directory and then check the size of that directory. It beats having to try and calculate or estimate the size of the picture files. Even if you have to send multiple discs, using write-only CD or DVDs would seem like the least expensive option and they are fairly easy to mail in one of those bubble mailers.