"Secure" PDF and "Secure" Mobi docs?

AceHarddrive · 05-10-2007, 03:47 AM

Hello all!

Seriously considering investing in an Iliad in the near future and would like to know if you can read "Secure" (aka encrypted) PDF and Mobipocket documents? I've tried to load "Secure" PDF's into my Tapwave Zodiac 2, but it just won't do it. Will the Iliad handle "Secure" (encrypted) files or are they only to be read on the PC?

~Tim ^_^

Adam B. · 05-10-2007, 08:59 AM

It depends on the way they are "secured", most password protected PDF's should open on the iLiad without a problem. Any other type of DRM will probably not work.

What operating system do you run? If it's Mac or Linux, try to open it in a PDF viewer other than Acrobat. If it opens in there, it'll probably open on the iLiad.

BKeeper · 05-10-2007, 12:40 PM

Protected mobipocket shouldn't be a problem. (after all, the iLiad has official support)
pass protected pdfs are supported.
Restricted pdfs could be tricky. (there are many levels of restrictions)
If you have a "flexible" interpretation of fair use I suppose you could go ahead and one of the many apps that remove such restrictions.

rlauzon · 05-10-2007, 01:11 PM

PDFs that are simply locked down (ex: printing prohibited) should work.

All the "secured" PDFs that I have encountered require that you have
1. Adobe Acrobat to read it.
2. An OS that supports DRM (like Windows and not Linux).
3. An active Internet connection.

Jennifer-Botham · 04-28-2008, 07:52 AM

I don't know. It would be nice if Bookeen could work with eReader to open secure eReader palmdoc pdb ebooks, but we'll have to wait until Bookeen lets us know one way or the other. For now, let us presume you will be able to open unencrypted/unsecure PDFs and Palmdoc files

igorsk · 04-28-2008, 10:15 AM

From what I hear Mobipocket license agreement forbids having support for other DRM formats besides Mobi.

TallMomof2 · 04-29-2008, 09:18 AM

I can read both DRMed MOBI and PDB on my Palm since I have both MobiReader and eReader installed on it.

igorsk · 04-29-2008, 11:42 AM

I guess I should have added "on dedicated readers". I've heard such things said about the lack of other DRM formats on iLiad and Cybook (and now lBook).

wallcraft · 04-29-2008, 11:54 AM

MobiPocket won't license the MOBI format to a 3rd party unless they get exclusivity (no other ebook DRM support). In theory, this does not prevent someone from downloading reader software for an alternative format, but at present there are no suitable alternative down loadable readers for E-Ink devices. For Linux, Adobe Digital Editions may be the first candidate (not likely to run on existing E-Ink devices without vendor support though). I think eReader, for example, could easily gain market share by releasing a Linux reader targeting Nokia Internet tablets, the iLiad, Linux Desktops and MIDs. There may be down loadable reader options for WinCE based devices such as the Astak Mentor, although (at least initially) they are likely to be older (WinCE 3.0) versions of the software.

joblack · 05-08-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BKeeper

If you have a "flexible" interpretation of fair use I suppose you could go ahead and one of the many apps that remove such restrictions.

You can't remove the deep DRM (at least from Adobe 6 or higher - for Adobe 5 you could use the Advanced eBook Processor).

05-10-2007, 03:47 AM	#1
AceHarddrive Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 49 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake City, FL, USA Device: Tapwave Zodiac 2	"Secure" PDF and "Secure" Mobi docs? Hello all! Seriously considering investing in an Iliad in the near future and would like to know if you can read "Secure" (aka encrypted) PDF and Mobipocket documents? I've tried to load "Secure" PDF's into my Tapwave Zodiac 2, but it just won't do it. Will the Iliad handle "Secure" (encrypted) files or are they only to be read on the PC? ~Tim ^_^

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Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	It depends on the way they are "secured", most password protected PDF's should open on the iLiad without a problem. Any other type of DRM will probably not work. What operating system do you run? If it's Mac or Linux, try to open it in a PDF viewer other than Acrobat. If it opens in there, it'll probably open on the iLiad.

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igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	From what I hear Mobipocket license agreement forbids having support for other DRM formats besides Mobi.

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igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	I guess I should have added "on dedicated readers". I've heard such things said about the lack of other DRM formats on iLiad and Cybook (and now lBook).

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