Classic Nook Consensus: Slow

Ocean · 12-07-2009, 03:23 PM

Another review, another speed remark:

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Nook Chases Kindle At Snail's Pace
Barnes & Noble's electronic book reader bears a striking resemblance to Amazon's Kindle, adding some useful features; but it falls achingly short in the critical area of speed

Commentary by Rich Jaroslovsky

(Bloomberg) — The Nook is finally here. It turns out to be much less Kindle-killer than Kindle-clone, and a slow one at that.

Everyone who comments on the speed of the device says it is slow. I've not yet seen one review contradict this. Either they don't comment on it, or if they do they say that it is slow.

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But the Nook falls short in one critical area: speed. In just about every important function—opening a book, turning pages, and especially starting up—it lags behind its competitor.

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Before Barnes & Noble spends much time on the Nook's future, though, it needs to deal with the present. Early adopters can only hope it moves more quickly than the Nook currently does.

http://www.businessweek.com/print/te...127_591187.htm

Ocean · 12-07-2009, 03:29 PM

Another consensus seems to be that this is just a Kindle version 2.5 or 3.0.

It's a evolutionary refresh of Amazons device, not a revolutionary one.

Not_A_Crook · 12-07-2009, 07:04 PM

Noone seems to notice at least one of the most common consistency issues with these reviews?

Firmware.

As far as I know, the nook, as well as many other devices with constant update sessions, will continue to be slow until the initial shipping/release date arrives... And a firmware update is already in the balance.

I can feel it breathing down my neck.

sirmaru · 12-07-2009, 07:09 PM

I just saw a review on CBS and they also noted that the BN Nook was VERY SLOW compared to Amazon Kindle and Sony.

Thus, I stay with my Sony PRS 505 for occasional reading and Sony eReader for PC for most of my reading.

I downloaded Amazon Kindle for PC and it is very PRIMITIVE compared to the Sony software. One more reason to stay with Sony.

My ophthamalogist, who has an Amazon Kindle, said its contrast is so poor that he cannot read it.

kindlekitten · 12-07-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

I just saw a review on CBS and they also noted that the BN Nook was VERY SLOW compared to Amazon Kindle and Sony.

Thus, I stay with my Sony PRS 505 for occasional reading and Sony eReader for PC for most of my reading.

I downloaded Amazon Kindle for PC and it is very PRIMITIVE compared to the Sony software. One more reason to stay with Sony.

My ophthamalogist, who has an Amazon Kindle, said its contrast is so poor that he cannot read it.

your opthamalogist needs a new eye doctor

Propheous · 12-07-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

your opthamalogist needs a new eye doctor

This is by far not the first complaint I have heard about the Kindles screen and its contrast. Of course since pretty much all the screen are very similar when it comes to e-ink I don't think its saying much.

Madam Broshkina · 12-07-2009, 07:36 PM

If it were not for the font hack for the Kindle 2 I would have returned it. There was a notable difference compared to my Sony 505.

Kolenka · 12-07-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Propheous

This is by far not the first complaint I have heard about the Kindles screen and its contrast. Of course since pretty much all the screen are very similar when it comes to e-ink I don't think its saying much.

Could be possible that Kindle has a defective screen. I've not seen any contrast issues on a Kindle, but I have heard of some of the early v2 models shipping with screens that had flaws.

Nitrousoxide · 12-07-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

I just saw a review on CBS and they also noted that the BN Nook was VERY SLOW compared to Amazon Kindle and Sony.

I think this is bull. I've personally tried the Sony PRS 600 and the refresh rates on the Nook are at least as fast as that. Probably faster.

People forget that the iPhone had godawful slowdown in their early firmwares. Even after 2.0 came out it had some terrible slow down and crashing problems with even native apps like Safari. It's only with 3.0 really that it's become quite sprightly, but even then it gives me plenty of frustrating slow down. It's entirely conceivable and likely that patches could do a lot to optimize the user experience on something like the Nook, just like they have on the iPhone, or ANY consumer electronic device that has had updatable software/firmware.

JJoyce · 12-07-2009, 08:01 PM

So...

Having had some time today to play with the nook demos at B&N, I think this "it's slow" thing has been blown out of proportion.

During my time playing with the device, I never noticed any appreciable slow down apart from a "formatting" pause when you open a book or switch from helvetica neue to one of the other included font.

I think I'm pretty sold on the device after today's experiences.

Madam Broshkina · 12-07-2009, 08:13 PM

From this video it does look like it may take a little longer to get to a book but once your in your book the refresh rate seems pretty quick. I wish that he demonstrate the page turns more though.

Ocean · 12-07-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Not_A_Crook

Noone seems to notice at least one of the most common consistency issues with these reviews?

Firmware.

Isn't it rude to give your guests a steak and tell them to wait ten minutes before cutting into it because it's still pretty raw on the inside?

Ocean · 12-07-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrousoxide

I think this is bull. I've personally tried the Sony PRS 600 and the refresh rates on the Nook are at least as fast as that. Probably faster.

Lots of people are saying it...and where theres smoke...

Musicman · 12-07-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JJoyce

So...

Having had some time today to play with the nook demos at B&N, I think this "it's slow" thing has been blown out of proportion.

During my time playing with the device, I never noticed any appreciable slow down apart from a "formatting" pause when you open a book or switch from helvetica neue to one of the other included font.

I think I'm pretty sold on the device after today's experiences.

I also played with one at B&N and I do not agree with the "its Slow" either. I found page turns just fine. I liked what I saw.

javajoe96 · 12-07-2009, 10:09 PM

well, if you think it is slow or not, B&N already working on a firmware update to speed up everything, hopefully it will be out before the end of the year.

12-07-2009, 07:09 PM	#4
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	CBS Review also: SLOW I just saw a review on CBS and they also noted that the BN Nook was VERY SLOW compared to Amazon Kindle and Sony. Thus, I stay with my Sony PRS 505 for occasional reading and Sony eReader for PC for most of my reading. I downloaded Amazon Kindle for PC and it is very PRIMITIVE compared to the Sony software. One more reason to stay with Sony. My ophthamalogist, who has an Amazon Kindle, said its contrast is so poor that he cannot read it.

12-07-2009, 10:09 PM	#15
javajoe96 Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Saint Louis, MO Device: Barnes & Noble Nook, Sony PRS-700	Nook Speed well, if you think it is slow or not, B&N already working on a firmware update to speed up everything, hopefully it will be out before the end of the year.

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Ocean Banned Posts: 166 Karma: 666 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Proud G1 Kindle Owner	Another consensus seems to be that this is just a Kindle version 2.5 or 3.0. It's a evolutionary refresh of Amazons device, not a revolutionary one.

12-07-2009, 07:04 PM	#3
Not_A_Crook Which way is up? Posts: 217 Karma: 94 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Nook, Alphasmart Neo (word processor, Viable document reader.)	Noone seems to notice at least one of the most common consistency issues with these reviews? Firmware. As far as I know, the nook, as well as many other devices with constant update sessions, will continue to be slow until the initial shipping/release date arrives... And a firmware update is already in the balance. I can feel it breathing down my neck.

12-07-2009, 07:36 PM	#7
Madam Broshkina Manic Do Fuse Posts: 2,312 Karma: 3325462 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Sony 500, 505, 350, Kindle 3, DXG, nook, Irex DR800SG, iPad	If it were not for the font hack for the Kindle 2 I would have returned it. There was a notable difference compared to my Sony 505.

12-07-2009, 08:01 PM	#10
JJoyce Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: DFW Device: nook	So... Having had some time today to play with the nook demos at B&N, I think this "it's slow" thing has been blown out of proportion. During my time playing with the device, I never noticed any appreciable slow down apart from a "formatting" pause when you open a book or switch from helvetica neue to one of the other included font. I think I'm pretty sold on the device after today's experiences.

12-07-2009, 08:13 PM	#11
Madam Broshkina Manic Do Fuse Posts: 2,312 Karma: 3325462 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Sony 500, 505, 350, Kindle 3, DXG, nook, Irex DR800SG, iPad	From this video it does look like it may take a little longer to get to a book but once your in your book the refresh rate seems pretty quick. I wish that he demonstrate the page turns more though.