Kindle for PC is there - Page 17

Hellmark · 11-18-2009, 01:46 PM

If I could strip DRM from kindle books, I'd buy from Amazon. I have a Sony reader that I love, but Amazon has often cheaper prices, or books unavailable elsewhere.

BeccaAnn · 11-18-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

If I could strip DRM from kindle books, I'd buy from Amazon. I have a Sony reader that I love, but Amazon has often cheaper prices, or books unavailable elsewhere.

I too, love my Sony but without even having to think hard, I can think of at least 12 books that only Amazon has that I want. I can barely afford new books, forget about getting a Kindle when my Sony is less than a year old. I was so excited to hear about Kindle for the PC. I thought it would be easy to strip the DRM since it has already been broken with the Kindle. My mistake, at least I haven't bought any books. I've only gotten freebies and a couple of samples. Hopefully it will be broken soon and Amazon can once again get my business (they lost it when I got my Sony).

Hellmark · 11-18-2009, 02:10 PM

I went with the Sony because it is more durable because of the aluminum body, and the control layout is a better fit for me. Not to mention, I dislike the problems Amazon has had with deleting books.

scveteran · 11-22-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

It's sarcasm. There are not those steps, plain and simple. There is no wireless involved in Kindle for PC. Period, end of story. There is no reason to charge for wireless delivery, because there is no wireless. If someone later added a Kindle and wanted wireless delivery? Well, that's another story, sure, and charges then might be appropriate.

And going by the definitions used by anti-malware programs, I'm afraid you're quite simply wrong not to lable the program malware. Oh it won't, Amazon have enough clout to make the issue go away, but it clearly falls foul of the definitions - that sort of "contingency charge" is a clear, and fairly common, scam.

You are completely wrong to say this is malware. It is also clearly not a scam. They clearly identify the charges. There is no way that can call it a scam if you know exactly what you are getting and what you are paying.

They are providing the software for free as a way to get you to use the Kindle. It is an integrated part of the system. So it makes sense that they charge the fee with the actual Kindle in mind.

DawnFalcon · 11-22-2009, 06:00 PM

So, it's no longer a scam? They've stopped charging contingency fees for services people don't have available? Great. Press release, thanks.

As I said, it's a very common scam and when other companies did this there was much screaming at them.

scveteran · 11-22-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Well of course not, they've given up my business until they're prepared to denounce the scam (and, knowing me, it'll be several years after that before I'm willing to deal with them again). And of course they're also banned on any network I control and I'll tell people not to deal with them. Nothing unusual...I also do the same for companies like Zynga and Tattoo Media.

I sure hope that the people on networks that you control find out what kind of person you are. I know that I would not want you as a network administrator if you are going to ban my use of a service due to your inability to understand the difference between a legitimate business practice and a scam.

DawnFalcon · 11-22-2009, 06:13 PM

I'm the sort of person who does due diligence, right!

I'd like to hear your defence of Zynga or Tattoo Media's practices, mind you. Go on...

scveteran · 11-22-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

I'm the sort of person who does due diligence, right! Shit, I'm often accused of being soft. What, people who agree with my approach use my services? Never.

I'd like to hear your defence of Zynga or Tattoo Media's practices, mind you. Go on...

I am only talking about your claims that you made here about Amazon and how you are going to act. I don't know anything about the other two companies so I am not talking about them.

What is clear to me is that you are making invalid claims against the company that are borderline if not completely libelous. Considering the laws in your country, it is really strange that you would make such claims and then have to depend on Amazon being nice enough to ignore you.

It is also clear from the post that I had replied to before this, that you are willing to prevent users from accessing a company just because you hold a grudge. That is not acceptable IMO.

DawnFalcon · 11-22-2009, 06:52 PM

Yes, you are talking about them. Because you're defending the same business practices. Your ignorance is no defence, and I'd suggest you do some research.

This is certainly not a "grudge", it's defending people in this house from a company billing users for services they do not have access to. Please, keep on arguing for that, you're making my point for me.

Also, yes, bear in mind the laws of the country I'm in. Not making accusations would seem to be smart on your part. (Mods: Sorry, but I don't take legal threats lightly, ever)

scveteran · 11-22-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Yes, you are talking about them. Because you're defending the same business practices. Your ignorance is no defence, and I'd suggest you do some research.

This is certainly not a "grudge", it's defending people in this house from a company billing users for services they do not have access to. Please, keep on arguing for that, you're making my point for me.

Also, yes, bear in mind the laws of the country I'm in. Not making accusations would seem to be smart on your part. (Mods: Sorry, but I don't take legal threats lightly, ever)

I just read up on what you referred to. It is in no way the say thing as what Amazon is doing. That is a ridiculous accusation. Keep in mind that I am not the only one telling you that you are wrong about what is going on here. I am not defending actual scams and malware simply by pointing out that you can't tell the difference between those two things and a legitimate practice.

It is most certainly a grudge, and the proof is in your statement. You said that you are not going to do business with them for several years after they do what you want. That is a classic example of holding a grudge. Aslo you said you are going to take multiple actions to try and hurt the company. Again, example of holding a grudge.

As for defending people in "this house", maybe that is what you think you are doing: I don't know. What I do know is that you hinted at multiple networks and that certainly doesn't imply a home situation. Neither did your other statement about using your services. If it is your homeand you have children, you have a right to decide what your children do with your money. Anything other than that, you are censoring what other adults can see and do because you have an irrational feeling about the company. Yes, I said irrational because you are taking this far past the point of being rational.

Lastly, my pointing out that it is strange that you would committ libel against a company due to the laws in your country is not a legal threat. Only someone who is incapable of thinking rationally about the subject would think that it is. Certainly I have no standing to bring any legal action against you. I am also a disabled person with no money or ability to travel to your country to take an action even if I had standing. So you have to be pretty irrational to think that I am bringing a threat against you.

On the other hand, you reference the laws in your country and then talk about what you perceive as my actions. That is a threat. Of course I really don't care if you make idiotic threats. It can't hurt me since your courts can't do anything to me here in South Carolina. Also it only shows everyone how childish you are being at the moment.

I strongly suggest you take some time and calm down before coming back.

Mobile Mason · 11-22-2009, 07:53 PM

Waiting for that Mac version Amazon, please don't keep me waiting.

DawnFalcon · 11-22-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scveteran

I strongly suggest you take some time and calm
down before coming back.

You know, when you've backed yourself into a hole and are defending companies like Zynaga? Stop digging, really.

(And that's amusing, honestly)

pshrynk · 11-22-2009, 08:48 PM

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scveteran · 11-22-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

You know, when you've backed yourself into a hole and are defending companies like Zynaga? Stop digging, really.

(And that's amusing, honestly)

The reason I suggested you wait and come back is that you are so angry that you don't even have a clue to what I said. I never defended Zynaga at any point. I said that what Amazon is doing is not a scam or malware.

At this point, I would again suggest you stop for awhile until you can actually read what a person says and understand it.

DawnFalcon · 11-22-2009, 10:46 PM

I understand perfectly. You, by your own admission, you haven't looked into why the other companies I mentioned had issues, and seen what their practices were generally called. Again, you're defending business practices which are downright unpleasant. The only real question is how much more validation you'll give to my point now.

11-22-2009, 06:13 PM	#247
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	I'm the sort of person who does due diligence, right! I'd like to hear your defence of Zynga or Tattoo Media's practices, mind you. Go on... Last edited by DawnFalcon; 11-22-2009 at 06:51 PM.

11-22-2009, 06:52 PM	#249
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	Yes, you are talking about them. Because you're defending the same business practices. Your ignorance is no defence, and I'd suggest you do some research. This is certainly not a "grudge", it's defending people in this house from a company billing users for services they do not have access to. Please, keep on arguing for that, you're making my point for me. Also, yes, bear in mind the laws of the country I'm in. Not making accusations would seem to be smart on your part. (Mods: Sorry, but I don't take legal threats lightly, ever) Last edited by DawnFalcon; 11-22-2009 at 06:56 PM.

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11-18-2009, 01:46 PM	#241
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	If I could strip DRM from kindle books, I'd buy from Amazon. I have a Sony reader that I love, but Amazon has often cheaper prices, or books unavailable elsewhere.

11-18-2009, 02:10 PM	#243
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	I went with the Sony because it is more durable because of the aluminum body, and the control layout is a better fit for me. Not to mention, I dislike the problems Amazon has had with deleting books.

11-22-2009, 06:00 PM	#245
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	So, it's no longer a scam? They've stopped charging contingency fees for services people don't have available? Great. Press release, thanks. As I said, it's a very common scam and when other companies did this there was much screaming at them.

11-22-2009, 07:53 PM	#251
Mobile Mason Resident Anglophile Posts: 76 Karma: 460 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio, United States Device: Kindle 2	Waiting for that Mac version Amazon, please don't keep me waiting.

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11-22-2009, 10:46 PM	#255
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	I understand perfectly. You, by your own admission, you haven't looked into why the other companies I mentioned had issues, and seen what their practices were generally called. Again, you're defending business practices which are downright unpleasant. The only real question is how much more validation you'll give to my point now.