Going Rogue

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by Harmon

From everything I have read - except for the kind of generalities you just wrote, of course - it appears that Palin was a perfecty capable governor of Alaska.

Excellent article I read a few days back:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuck..._b_357676.html

(Yes, I broke my promise. I'm going rogue!)

[AlexBell]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

At present, our health care system is the worst in the industrialized world, because it remains available only to those who can afford it. In no other Western country is a major illness practically a guarantee of poverty. This is disgraceful.

Those of you from other countries, let's hear from you. Would you trade what you have for the USA system?

I've lived and worked in Canada and Australia as a health care provider and as a patient.

Never in a million years would I tolerate the system you have in the USA. I don't suppose there's any way of saying this without causing offense, but I think you people are out of your minds.

Regards, Alex

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by Harmon

When the government pays for your medical care, you will only get the medical care the government thinks you should have.

When private insurance companies pay for your medical care, you will only get the medical care the private insurance company thinks you should have.

Oh... wait... we already have that.

My health insurance covers my high blood pressure meds, they cover the anti-inflamatories and muscle relaxers I need for my back due to 3 bulging disks. Oh, they paid for the MRI to diagnose that too. If it gets worse they will pay for steriod injections or possible back surgery... I hope to god it doesn't come to that.

My insurance company sends me letters saying I can't get certain meds that the doc had perscribed, so we had to find others. Luckily the three I am taking now are all on the Wallmart $4 plan... so I pay less for them than my script co-pay.

They pay for my CPAP machine and reusables to treat my sleep apnea.

They will also pay for heart surgery and bypass if it comes to that.

But, all of these problems are due to my weight. But, they will not pay for any weight loose procedures or medical fast type programs of any kind.

No, I am not lazy. No I don't not eat like a pig. I just gain weight very easily. I started an walking program which helped a little but my knee started to be in pain and it made my back worse... so I've stopped doing that. I hope to find something with less impact on my knees and back.

So, does that make sense? Even though my doc says bariatric surgery is indicated and would resolve all those issues.

Yes, god forbid the government pays and we have to put up with what they say is good for me rather than my Dr.

BOb

[93terp]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

no no.......I was asking 93terp. I also happen to think the government isn't the solution, its the problem, and that if anyone from the government tell me they're "here to help" I'd run.....since he finds my beliefs so repulsive, ignorant and shallow, I was wondering what he thinks the purpose of government is.

Your assertion that I am a "he" is not only insulting, but completely wrong.

The next time the "government" comes to your rescue in the form of the fire department or the police department or the FAA or your Medicare policy or your Social Security, just to name a few, I'll assume that you will tell them that government is the problem & not the solution & refuse their services in your time of need. I also assume that, since you believe gov't is the problem & not the solution, you send back your monthly Social Security check (if you are of a qualifying age to receive that gov't provided help) and that you are not using Medicare coverage of any kind (again, assuming that you are of a qualifying age to receive that gov't provided help).

Since you believe that gov't is the problem & not the solution, I'll assume then that you aren't so much concerned with constitutional guarentees of life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness or the freedoms that we Americans hold so dear? After all, who do you think guarentees and provides for the protections of those freedoms and liberties? Surely not the big, bad evil gov't!

Since you believe that gov't is the problem & not the solution, I'll assume then that you wouldn't mind the complete dismantling of the US armed forces. After all, what entity is responsible for ensuring that there is a military force to protect our constitution & what it provides to all citizens and defend our liberties & freedoms? Surely not the big, bad evil gov't!

Finally, I'm also assuming that since you believe gov't is the problem & not the solution that you do not exercise your constitutional right to vote for your elected gov't representation. After all, we have (or at least the original plan was to have) a gov't "of, by & for the people". So does that mean you ultimately believe that the people are the problem? If so, sounds like you would prefer to live somewhere else, perhaps in a country like China, which is a Communist dictatorship? Hmmm.....

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by 93terp

Your assertion that I am a "he" is not only insulting, but completely wrong.

I'm not sure why you are insulted. You have to admit your psuedo isn't very gender specific.

How was someone to know your gender?

BOb

[Daithi]

Originally Posted by 93terp

Your assertion that I am a "he" is not only insulting, but completely wrong.

Why would you take such offense? It's not like 93terp is an obviously female name. I'm pretty confident she (I assume desertgrandma is a she) wasn't insulting you.

[93terp]

Originally Posted by Harmon

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States
to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory
than to the faculty of Harvard University." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

So would I.

There is a difference between intelligence and judgment. Many people have one or the other. Sometimes I wonder why the combination is so rare. Yet it is, or so it seems to me.

Hmmm....look at the judgement displayed & used by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove et al. Where exactly did that get us? Perhaps a little more collective intelligence by that cabal would have served us all much better than their collective lack of intelligence, lack of any intellectual curiousity and disdain for rational & critical thinking.

Considering Buckley graduated from Yale University & lived a life of upper class priviledge, I don't put much credence into his quote above. He was also a staunch defender of the South's segregationist policies (so what does that say about his judgement?) and lived to regret it and ultimately reverse his position on segregation.

[GA Russell]

Everybody, not only is 93terp a woman, she was a virgin when she registered here!

Hoya Saxa!

[93terp]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I'm not sure why you are insulted. You have to admit your psuedo isn't very gender specific.

How was someone to know your gender?

BOb

There are hundreds of pseudos on MR that aren't gender specific. I just think it's insulting to automatically assume that someone is a he if their pseudo is not gender specific. I'm very much a unapologetic proud liberal, but I wasn't insulted due to any feminist positions on female/male equality. Unless you personally know someone on boards/forums like this, the use of "he/she" just seems more appropriate to me. Perhaps desertgrandma just forgot to put the (s) in front of he!

[93terp]

Originally Posted by GA Russell

Everybody, not only is 93terp a woman, she was a virgin when she registered here!

Hoya Saxa!

That's right - I had completely forgotten about that! Thanks for reminding me - I needed a good laugh!

[93terp]

Originally Posted by Daithi

Why would you take such offense? It's not like 93terp is an obviously female name. I'm pretty confident she (I assume desertgrandma is a she) wasn't insulting you.

Don't misunderstand - I never believed that DGM intended to be insulting. I just took the assumption of gender as an insult.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by 93terp

There are hundreds of pseudos on MR that aren't gender specific. I just think it's insulting to automatically assume that someone is a he if their pseudo is not gender specific. I'm very much a unapologetic proud liberal, but I wasn't insulted due to any feminist positions on female/male equality. Unless you personally know someone on boards/forums like this, the use of "he/she" just seems more appropriate to me. Perhaps desertgrandma just forgot to put the (s) in front of he!

I disagree... the male form of a pronoun is pretty common usage when the gender is unknown or when referring to a group of people.

Still, in any case I don't think you should feel that you were insulted.

There are also names that are used for different genders in some countries. Personally I always think of "Kelly" and "Pat" as girls names. But, of course they are common boys names too. But, if I refer to a Kelly I don't know as she and it is a male, a simple correction is all I need.

So, please give DG the benefit of the doubt with a simple... BTW: for future reference I am a she not an he. It is much more polite and less confrontational than the language you used.

After all, we just want to keep everything polite as much as possible.

BOb
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[Good Old Neon]

Originally Posted by Harmon

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States
to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory
than to the faculty of Harvard University." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

So would I.

There is a difference between intelligence and judgment. Many people have one or the other. Sometimes I wonder why the combination is so rare. Yet it is, or so it seems to me.

And some people, based on your recent post history, along with your defense of Palin et al, display neither.

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I'm not sure why you are insulted. You have to admit your psuedo isn't very gender specific.

How was someone to know your gender?

BOb

If in doubt, check user profile, if still in doubt obfuscate .... if still in doubt .... :duck:

[Madam Broshkina]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Excellent article I read a few days back:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuck..._b_357676.html

(Yes, I broke my promise. I'm going rogue!)

Well the Huffington Post is certainly a fair and balanced news source. Plus an article that is based on the book Going Rouge: Sarah Palin--An American Nightmare certainly would not show any bias against SP.