Kindle for PC is there - Page 12

Sweetpea · 11-12-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Well okay, it's 0% VAT for pbooks in the UK, so I'm biased :P

Yes, but you don't pay 0% VAT on ebooks...

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Originally Posted by =X=

I can't tell if you guy's are serious or not 19-25% my knees get weak and my stomach turns just thinking about those rates. Do you guys also pay income tax or does the government generate tax revenue only by tax sales?

Remember, most European countries are welfare states. The way to pay for a welfare state is generally by taxation.

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Originally Posted by =X=

Right that was what I was getting at. I heard eBooks where classified under software so that is why they are taxed heavily. Do you pay the higher taxes for DVD, books, and CDs?

=X=

No, they are a service. If I were to buy a cd, floppy disk, usb stick, dvd rom, blue-ray disc, hd, tape? with an ebook on it, it would be a "book" and thus get the low VAT rate. But as I don't get a physical carrier it's a high VAT rate thing.

Books are low VAT, music (on CD's, DVD's or any other carrier) is high VAT.

DawnFalcon · 11-12-2009, 03:34 PM

No, they are not a "service". They are simply ebooks, which attract normal rate VAT. Printed books are specifically zero-rated.

(And that's "socalist")

orwell2k · 11-12-2009, 08:27 PM

I keep getting an error message when I try to "Sync and Check For New Items" and download the ebooks ordered from Amazon (free, so no cost - I didn't want to risk it until I know it works!). The message is:

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Unable to connect at this time. Please try again later.

Anyone else having this problem?

BearMountainBooks · 11-12-2009, 09:03 PM

I just downloaded a sample about 5 minutes ago, no problem.

delphidb96 · 11-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Yep. Working for me as well. Gotta say, having the ability to see the images in color and on a 22" screen has made reading the Photoshop Layers kindle ebook I just downloaded a real pleasure.

Derek

Sweetpea · 11-13-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by orwell2k

I keep getting an error message when I try to "Sync and Check For New Items" and download the ebooks ordered from Amazon (free, so no cost - I didn't want to risk it until I know it works!). The message is:

Anyone else having this problem?

Yes, I have, at work. I'm behind a proxy there and it looks like it uses a different port than 80. I can't think of another reason as I must turn the proxy off when I'm at home (on my IE)

phenomshel · 11-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Oh, NOW I get the email from Amazon!

texasnightowl · 11-13-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by orwell2k

I keep getting an error message when I try to "Sync and Check For New Items" and download the ebooks ordered from Amazon (free, so no cost - I didn't want to risk it until I know it works!). The message is:

Anyone else having this problem?

I saw that Wednesday night, but last night it worked OK. So

llreader · 11-13-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Oh, NOW I get the email from Amazon!

Meh. I still haven't been told. Is there somthing happening at Amazon?

zelda_pinwheel · 11-13-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Oh, NOW I get the email from Amazon!

huh, i still haven't gotten it.

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Originally Posted by llreader

Meh. I still haven't been told. Is there somthing happening at Amazon?

not that i know of.

Sweetpea · 11-13-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Oh, NOW I get the email from Amazon!

I got it on wednesday...

Hellmark · 11-13-2009, 05:40 PM

What is this email you guys are talking about?

luqmaninbmore · 11-13-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

What is this email you guys are talking about?

The email announcing the availability of the kindle pc app. You could sign up for it after the program was announced.

scveteran · 11-13-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Yea, but tax on ebooks should be the same as that on print books.

Also, I jokeingly mentioned earlier in the thread that because of the $2.30 charge outside the UK it should be considered malware...well, at least two major software vendors in the business are apparently currently "in talks" with Amazon on that issue.

You might think that it should be the same, but I think you are wrong. I am going to use the example of the shareware companies back in the early 90s when they "sold" you a copy of a PD software. What they really were doing is charging a fee for the service of copying the program to the media and sending it to you. Here, you are being charged a tax on the distribution, not the actual book.

scveteran · 11-13-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by =X=

I can't tell if you guy's are serious or not 19-25% my knees get weak and my stomach turns just thinking about those rates. Do you guys also pay income tax or does the government generate tax revenue only by tax sales?

Right that was what I was getting at. I heard eBooks where classified under software so that is why they are taxed heavily. Do you pay the higher taxes for DVD, books, and CDs?

=X=

For the most part they have income taxes even higher than in the US.

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11-12-2009, 03:34 PM	#167
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	No, they are not a "service". They are simply ebooks, which attract normal rate VAT. Printed books are specifically zero-rated. (And that's "socalist")

11-12-2009, 09:03 PM	#169
BearMountainBooks Maria Schneider Posts: 3,746 Karma: 26439330 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard	I just downloaded a sample about 5 minutes ago, no problem.

11-12-2009, 09:44 PM	#170
delphidb96 Wizard Posts: 2,999 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Citrus Heights, California Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V	Yep. Working for me as well. Gotta say, having the ability to see the images in color and on a 22" screen has made reading the Photoshop Layers kindle ebook I just downloaded a real pleasure. Derek

11-13-2009, 02:03 PM	#172
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Oh, NOW I get the email from Amazon!

11-13-2009, 05:40 PM	#177
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	What is this email you guys are talking about?