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Old 11-11-2009, 05:24 AM   #121
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Clearly Amazon is not about supporting an open eco-system with its ebook sales.
The only good reason I can see is that there is pressure from publishers. Amazon already has better prices and more mindshare than the competition. If they offered the EPUB format, most of their competition would be crushed. It doesn't make sense to shut out customers.

The Kindle can continue to compete based on quality and features. Even if it dies, Amazon will still make more money than they would with a closed system. The Kindle will have served its purpose by creating the initial market and following.
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works for me. But without the PC app's Kindle ID we would have to actually read on the PC and can't transfer the books to our other devices. Let us give the hackers a few days.
I'm not sure ... I bought a $2 book as a test, and copied it out of the My Kindle Content folder on to the SD card of my ECO Reader and was able to open and read it. Navigation seems poor, and I can't change the font, but apart from that I can read the book. I haven't tested it yet to see if it has DRM.

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The only good reason I can see is that there is pressure from publishers. Amazon already has better prices and more mindshare than the competition. If they offered the EPUB format, most of their competition would be crushed. It doesn't make sense to shut out customers.

The Kindle can continue to compete based on quality and features. Even if it dies, Amazon will still make more money than they would with a closed system. The Kindle will have served its purpose by creating the initial market and following.
I think at this point that Bezos has a serious case of Jobs-envy and is trying for the whole "push profitable hardware by linking it to seemingly-cheap media." But, hey, I sure would like to see the same prices with a more open interoperability model. But I don't believe amazon is making any profit on their 9.99 priced books, but, I am fairly confident they are seriously overpricing their hardware.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:39 AM   #124
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I'm not sure ... I bought a $2 book as a test, and copied it out of the My Kindle Content folder on to the SD card of my ECO Reader and was able to open and read it. Navigation seems poor, and I can't change the font, but apart from that I can read the book. I haven't tested it yet to see if it has DRM.

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Yeah, that doesn't have DRM on it.
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Is there anyway (if you have Kindle for PC) to remove the DRM from the Kindle ebooks? I've seen some ebooks that I'd like to have but want to read them on my CyBook.
Yes, there *are* - as long as they are .azw, not .azw1(.tpz - topaz) file structure. The basic .azw format is just a version of .mobi/.prc. There are toolkits out there. Talk to me on the Bar.

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And how can I know, from the store, which format is the ebook? I've so far found just "Kindle Edition" as format...
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And how can I know, from the store, which format is the ebook? I've so far found just "Kindle Edition" as format...
Download a sample. You can see a difference in the reader itself, but it's better visible if you open the file itself in a text-editor (like notepad). Topaz files start with "TPZ", mobibooks start with the title of the book.
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:52 AM   #127
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Download a sample. You can see a difference in the reader itself, but it's better visible if you open the file itself in a text-editor (like notepad). Topaz files start with "TPZ", mobibooks start with the title of the book.
Even easier: check whether filesize is listed under the "Product Description". If it isn't listed the book is in Topaz, if it is listed it's mobi (possibly DRMed).
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:54 AM   #128
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While the VAT on electronic books is annoying, it's not the major problem with the Kindle store in the EU and elsewhere.

It's the $2 extra added to the ebook cost.

It's added to free ebooks too, so 'free' books in the UK Amazon store cost $2.30 = $2 + 15% VAT.

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You EU folks should really get on your government on this. It's ridiculous you pay so much for electronic content.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:00 AM   #129
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Just a quick note that changing your country on the Kindle store to USA allows you to get the freebies and the classics for free
Until they notice your Kindle isn't in the US, and ask you to contact customer services, and won't let you get anymore books from the US store until you do!
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:10 AM   #130
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Until they notice your Kindle isn't in the US, and ask you to contact customer services, and won't let you get anymore books from the US store until you do!
I don't have a Kindle. And my IP address was not in the US either.

I'm only interested in the Kindle for PC because I hope that someone will find out soon a way to undrm their ebooks so I can read them on my 505. They have some non-fiction ebooks that are not yet available elsewhere.

If you need a fake US address you can always look for the address of a B&N bookstore on the B&N website. Make for a good joke
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I'm not sure ... I bought a $2 book as a test, and copied it out of the My Kindle Content folder on to the SD card of my ECO Reader and was able to open and read it. Navigation seems poor, and I can't change the font, but apart from that I can read the book. I haven't tested it yet to see if it has DRM.

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The free classics don't have DRM. But the free promotional ebook are protected.
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Whatever % is your VAT, x% of 0 should always be 0... Strange.
The vat is being charged on the $2 overseas fee thing, although quite why that fee is being charged when a book isn't being sent wirelessly is the obvious question.
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I think at this point that Bezos has a serious case of Jobs-envy and is trying for the whole "push profitable hardware by linking it to seemingly-cheap media." But, hey, I sure would like to see the same prices with a more open interoperability model. But I don't believe amazon is making any profit on their 9.99 priced books, but, I am fairly confident they are seriously overpricing their hardware.
It would be interesting to know what they are making on the two things. I can't see the Kindle becoming the "standard" reader, just on the strength of Amazon's offer of texts.

Also, I think the $9.99 price is probably profitable (I really have no idea, but since they give free shipping on a lot of things, that has to cost money that ebooks don't). In any case, they do ask more for other things. My friend just published a book, and the Kindle price is higher than the hardback price ($0.32, but still...)
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I don't have a Kindle. And my IP address was not in the US either.

I'm only interested in the Kindle for PC because I hope that someone will find out soon a way to undrm their ebooks so I can read them on my 505. They have some non-fiction ebooks that are not yet available elsewhere.

If you need a fake US address you can always look for the address of a B&N bookstore on the B&N website. Make for a good joke

Good one.

Or publishers that won't/don't sell ebooks!
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Until they notice your Kindle isn't in the US, and ask you to contact customer services, and won't let you get anymore books from the US store until you do!
Not exactly...
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