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Old 10-26-2009, 07:52 AM   #8926
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Right now I'm trying to work out how a dress code of smart casual goes together with a workshop "involving paint". I think I'm going to be ignoring the smart part of the dress code tomorrow!
Dress code?

For a workshop?

Involving paint?

I'm having some difficulties with how any of this can be associated with the word "smart". Just a cultural difference thing I guess
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:21 AM   #8927
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why wait til then ? today seems like a good day for cake and champagne, and i'm not really the patient type. do you think this will be enough ?

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:22 AM   #8928
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Dress code?

For a workshop?

Involving paint?

I'm having some difficulties with how any of this can be associated with the word "smart". Just a cultural difference thing I guess


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Hic, shank you so mush, Zzzzzzzz, for the Shhhhhampagne! I thinkkk I'm going to lay down a bit....
hm, i hope you did have breakfast first ! you did, right ?
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:27 AM   #8929
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hm, i hope you did have breakfast first ! you did, right ?
Considering the hiccups and drowsiness, I would have to guess that no, she didn't
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:28 AM   #8930
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Considering the hiccups and drowsiness, I would have to guess that no, she didn't
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:38 AM   #8931
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I think, in this context, 'smart casual' means exactly this :



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why wait til then ? today seems like a good day for cake and champagne, and i'm not really the patient type. do you think this will be enough ?

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and let's not forget the cake :



Ooooh looks lovely!
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The teacher dress code in the schools where I work/worked has always been "Business casual". That's great for administration, but try wearing nice clothes when doing hands-on art or science activities with 6 year olds. I had a perfect pair of black slacks that I loved and which were promptly christened with a 6 year old red hand print during a language arts activity. Considering how little teachers are paid, the least they could do is let us wear close that are comfortable and workable.
Company wide dress codes are a remarkably daft idea - not everyone is sat behind a desk all day :grumbles:
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:41 AM   #8932
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(ps, it's the short form of "emmanuel" and it's pronounced with that french "u" that you anglophones have such a hard time pronouncing. )
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Curious, how does it relate to the "ew" and "oo" sounds (eg. "few" or "food" or "book" or...)?

My nephew calls my sister something that sounds a bit like "Mum-oo" (sort-of a bit between "food" and "book", but maybe not) rather than "Mum", and we follow in kind (though I occasionally emphasise the "moo" more than the "mum" bit ). My sister initially tried to correct our pronunciation of the word by seemingly repeating back to us exactly what we'd just said. Either we eventually got it right, or she gave up (though it would not do to overestimate her ability in pronunciation either). I have no idea how you would spell this word. "Maman" does not look close to it, but... We have similar separations between Tonton and Uncle (though The Loved One sometimes gets and enjoys "Tonton", especially when his given name is suitably francophoned too).

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:48 AM   #8933
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Curious, how does it relate to the "ew" and "oo" sounds (eg. "few" or "food" or "book" or...)?
How about a little demonstration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55-W35dmye8

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:50 AM   #8934
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Company wide dress codes are a remarkably daft idea - not everyone is sat behind a desk all day :grumbles:
And one that is very, very unusual over here. About the only ones that still have "dresscode" are banks, financial institutes and lawfirms.

In most workplaces that is not involved in manufacturing and such, as long as you are not too "extreme", it's up to you what you want to wear.

So it would be perfectly fine for me to show up at work in a Kilt for instance... I don't think my co-workers would like the sight of my hairy legs, but I could do it
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:53 AM   #8935
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tee hee, florence, i was just writing a very long explanation (to say basically "i don't know" ) but your solution is better... but, your youtube link doesn't work !

anyway, the short version of my now pointless reply is : i'm not really sure, because i'm not too sure how you pronounce "few", "food", "book" etc. i recently heard an australian person say "good" and i noticed they pronounced it with a very pure long "o" sound, "goood" rather than the much shorter version closer to "gud" you can sometimes hear. i would say it's closer to "few" than anything with "oo" (particularly in light of the "oooooo" pronunciation), but "few" is a diphthong like "fee-oo" and french "u" is not. it's similar to a german ü i believe, if that helps you at all. i once heard someone explain how to pronounce german vowels by saying "form your mouth as if you were going to say "ooo" and then say "e" (the name of the letter) through that shape" and i think that's a pretty good explanation.

as for "mum-oo", it could be maman maybe, is the end more like "oh" : "ah" than "anne" ?
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but, your youtube link doesn't work !
Oops... how about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55-W35dmye8
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yep, i think that should help.

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anyway, the short version of my now pointless reply is : i'm not really sure, because i'm not too sure how you pronounce "few", "food", "book" etc. i recently heard an australian person say "good" and i noticed they pronounced it with a very pure long "o" sound, "goood" rather than the much shorter version closer to "gud" you can sometimes hear.
Interpreting Australian pronunciation from hearing what an Aussie says might sometimes be...unreliable. Consistency is not always our forte. See, when I say "Good day", it inevitably comes out with the well-known "G'day" and so the "good" is shortened to practical vowellessness. "Gud" is how I'd say we'd normally pronounce it, but "goood" is not without its desirably emphatic qualities. And, for instance, I pronounce the word "good" as "Paris-Brest". It's all a rich, creamy tapestry.

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i would say it's closer to "few" than anything with "oo" (particularly in light of the "oooooo" pronunciation), but "few" is a diphthong like "fee-oo" and french "u" is not. it's similar to a german ü i believe, if that helps you at all. i once heard someone explain how to pronounce german vowels by saying "form your mouth as if you were going to say "ooo" and then say "e" (the name of the letter) through that shape" and i think that's a pretty good explanation.

as for "mum-oo", it could be maman maybe, is the end more like "oh" : "ah" than "anne" ?
It's definitely close to "oh", but I'd actually take it closer to sitting between the "oo"s of "book" and "moon". I shall have to ask my brother-out-law how it's spelled.

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Dress code?

For a workshop?

Involving paint?

I'm having some difficulties with how any of this can be associated with the word "smart". Just a cultural difference thing I guess
I think you may be right. The people who set this up certainly seem to have a different culture than just about everyone else
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And one that is very, very unusual over here. About the only ones that still have "dresscode" are banks, financial institutes and lawfirms.

In most workplaces that is not involved in manufacturing and such, as long as you are not too "extreme", it's up to you what you want to wear.

So it would be perfectly fine for me to show up at work in a Kilt for instance... I don't think my co-workers would like the sight of my hairy legs, but I could do it
So what are the immigration requirements for Sweden?

My company appears to be going backwards - when I started you only had to look smart if you were meeting external people. Tomorrow they're announcing we all have to look smart. Or at least smart casual. I may have to start ironing my jeans
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