600 Touch Screen Responsiveness

City Island · 10-16-2009, 07:13 PM

I just got a new 600 and I'm wondering about the touch screen - there's a major lag when writing notes and drawing - the pen and the line are nowhere near in synch. Software is updated and I did a pin reset. Is this the way everyone else's is? Sony knows how to do touch screens right (from monitors in the late 80's to Clie's) so I'm concerned this is a defect or an adjustment I can't do. Everybody is spoiled by the iPhone's responsiveness, but it would be nice if this particular 600's screen reminded me more of my 1997 Palm Pilot. Thoughts?

Jeff Silverstein

JSWolf · 10-16-2009, 07:34 PM

This is eink. It's slower then LCD.

City Island · 10-16-2009, 08:05 PM

So it's the painting of the line that's slow and that's not fixable? - you really have to slow down your writing so the e ink can catch up?

JSWolf · 10-16-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by City Island

So it's the painting of the line that's slow and that's not fixable? - you really have to slow down your writing so the e ink can catch up?

Yes you do.

FizzyWater · 10-16-2009, 08:44 PM

I agree. The note-taking (bookmarks, scribbles, and highlighting) is slooooow.

HarryT · 10-17-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FizzyWater

I agree. The note-taking (bookmarks, scribbles, and highlighting) is slooooow.

I'm afraid I disagree with you. There is a "time lag" with the eInk screen, yes, but that doesn't make it "slow" to use. Write at normal speed - the display will catch up with you. There is no need to wait until you see what you've written appear before continuing to write.

ziegl027 · 10-17-2009, 12:00 PM

I agree with Harry. Yes, the line doesn't match the speed of your pen, but it's the same situation as typing on a computer where there is a lag of some kind (e.g. starting to enter a query on Google before the screen is "done"). You can type as fast as you darn well please, you just don't see it yet. If you make an error, you can go back and correct it easily enough.

I guess it might be a problem if you wanted to draw artistically or something....

WT Sharpe · 10-17-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by City Island

I just got a new 600 and I'm wondering about the touch screen - there's a major lag when writing notes and drawing - the pen and the line are nowhere near in synch. Software is updated and I did a pin reset. Is this the way everyone else's is? Sony knows how to do touch screens right (from monitors in the late 80's to Clie's) so I'm concerned this is a defect or an adjustment I can't do. Everybody is spoiled by the iPhone's responsiveness, but it would be nice if this particular 600's screen reminded me more of my 1997 Palm Pilot. Thoughts?

Jeff Silverstein

You can't draw on the Kindle, but for typing notes, the keyboard is quite satisfactory; never had a problem with it keeping up. Of course, I'm not exactly a touch-typist, and don't know if someone who is would be as satisfied.

FragFrog · 10-18-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There is no need to wait until you see what you've written appear before continuing to write.

While in general I agree with you here, I did notice that sometimes, when you write very fast, lines or segments are skipped - for example, you may write 5 letters in quick succession and the 3rd simply doesn't show up. I found with some practice and a steady gait this effect becomes negligible, but for people used to write at an uneven or very high speed it might be a nuisance at first.

The more you write the less of an issue it becomes though, at least it did for me - with a few weeks of practice I can now write almost as fast on the touch as on normal paper.

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FragFrog

While in general I agree with you here, I did notice that sometimes, when you write very fast, lines or segments are skipped - for example, you may write 5 letters in quick succession and the 3rd simply doesn't show up ...

I've found a strange thing: when I import text files into my Kindle, occasionally a letter or two is left out that weren't omitted in the original file. Hmmmm

Anyone else notice this?

JSWolf · 10-18-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I've found a strange thing: when I import text files into my Kindle, occasionally a letter or two is left out that weren't omitted in the original file. Hmmmm

Anyone else notice this?

And this has to do with the 600's touch screen how?

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

And this has to do with the 600's touch screen how?

!

Well, FragFrog noticed that when writing letters in quick succession, sometimes certain strokes don't show up. I was wondering if there could be a common element that is intrinsic to all e-readers that could also be the underlying reason why sometimes when I import text files, the same thing happens.

C'mon, bro -- it wasn't that off-topic!

Raúl · 11-11-2009, 07:19 PM

Hi there,

I am also having problems with my PRS-600 when it comes to using the "create edit/notes" menu.

I may underline one word/line/paragraph and then I get a black underground, but it takes some time before it turns light grey and then I can go on highlighting/drawing or turning the page. The problem is that the transition from my highlighting/drawing something takes longer and longer (sometimes nearly one minute). And then I am stuck waiting before I can underline a different portion of text or even turn the page and go on reading. It is frustrating because it makes me wait longer for the saving than I need for the reading of the whole page.

This did not happen to me at the beginning, but now that I have underlined quite a few pages it does happen, and it is getting worse. I thought perhaps there is a limit to the amount of text you can highlight, but that would make the function useless.

Anybody has had the same experience? Any idea as to how this problem might be solved?

Thanks,

Raúl

erio · 11-12-2009, 05:20 AM

In this video you can see a Hanvon reader, and just look at the response of the writting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcN28YIxVZc

I was thinking about getting one of this instead of the prs-600,but well, i finally prefered the Sony one because of its dicctionary and its look... I'm sure in the future models they'll make this writting option better, its just a matter of time... =)

10-16-2009, 07:13 PM	#1
City Island Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Sony Reader Touch	600 Touch Screen Responsiveness I just got a new 600 and I'm wondering about the touch screen - there's a major lag when writing notes and drawing - the pen and the line are nowhere near in synch. Software is updated and I did a pin reset. Is this the way everyone else's is? Sony knows how to do touch screens right (from monitors in the late 80's to Clie's) so I'm concerned this is a defect or an adjustment I can't do. Everybody is spoiled by the iPhone's responsiveness, but it would be nice if this particular 600's screen reminded me more of my 1997 Palm Pilot. Thoughts? Jeff Silverstein

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10-16-2009, 07:34 PM	#2
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,784 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	This is eink. It's slower then LCD.

10-16-2009, 08:05 PM	#3
City Island Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Sony Reader Touch	So it's the painting of the line that's slow and that's not fixable? - you really have to slow down your writing so the e ink can catch up?

10-16-2009, 08:44 PM	#5
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	I agree. The note-taking (bookmarks, scribbles, and highlighting) is slooooow.

10-17-2009, 12:00 PM	#7
ziegl027 Addict Posts: 264 Karma: 764 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minnesota Device: Sony Touch, Kindle DXG	I agree with Harry. Yes, the line doesn't match the speed of your pen, but it's the same situation as typing on a computer where there is a lag of some kind (e.g. starting to enter a query on Google before the screen is "done"). You can type as fast as you darn well please, you just don't see it yet. If you make an error, you can go back and correct it easily enough. I guess it might be a problem if you wanted to draw artistically or something....

11-11-2009, 07:19 PM	#13
Raúl Member Posts: 12 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Madrid Device: SONY PRS600	Hi there, I am also having problems with my PRS-600 when it comes to using the "create edit/notes" menu. I may underline one word/line/paragraph and then I get a black underground, but it takes some time before it turns light grey and then I can go on highlighting/drawing or turning the page. The problem is that the transition from my highlighting/drawing something takes longer and longer (sometimes nearly one minute). And then I am stuck waiting before I can underline a different portion of text or even turn the page and go on reading. It is frustrating because it makes me wait longer for the saving than I need for the reading of the whole page. This did not happen to me at the beginning, but now that I have underlined quite a few pages it does happen, and it is getting worse. I thought perhaps there is a limit to the amount of text you can highlight, but that would make the function useless. Anybody has had the same experience? Any idea as to how this problem might be solved? Thanks, Raúl

11-12-2009, 05:20 AM	#14
erio Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: PRS-600	In this video you can see a Hanvon reader, and just look at the response of the writting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcN28YIxVZc I was thinking about getting one of this instead of the prs-600,but well, i finally prefered the Sony one because of its dicctionary and its look... I'm sure in the future models they'll make this writting option better, its just a matter of time... =)