The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 399

Sweetpea · 10-08-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst!

(I'm venting. Might rant later.)

You sprang a leak?

zelda_pinwheel · 10-08-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Yes, you miss that distinction in English. You have you, you and you. I find it weird to use the familiar form to a stranger... (but I do know plenty of parents who think their kids should use the polite form to them too. I personally find that weird...)

heh. you hear that occasionally with french parents as well, among the high bourgeoisie or aristocratie. it *is* weird. but i would have a hard time not having the distinction. in many situations you automatically use the familiar form even with someone you just met (a party, for instance) but for example i have an annual contract working for 2 weeks once a year with the same people. i've been going back for 5 years, and officially we say "tu" to each other now. but i don't really know them very well, and i don't even work with them very often, so my reflex is to say "vous" and every year at least once i say "vous" to someone without thinking and they say "'vous' ?? but last year we said tu !" it seems unnatural to me to say "tu" in those situations.

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst!

(I'm venting. Might rant later.)

quick somebody, get some duct tape ! i think he's deflating.

DixieGal · 10-08-2009, 10:09 AM

I personally like the formal or polite way of addressing people that French and Spanish use. I'm a bit uncomfortable calling strangers, doctors, and older people by their first names. Mr. or Mrs. works well, and yes sir or yes ma'am also.

VISION UPDATE
I didn't get my eye fixed yesterday. It's too messed up for the laser. Next Tues, they will admit me for anesthesia and a victrectomy. On my good eye.

Meanwhile, I'm having the scarring complication AGAIN on the bad eye, which will need another victrectomy in a few months. Gonna live with the pain and blurriness as long as possible before letting them go back in and scrape loose the scar tissue from the original surgery.

Not only could I not see the big E on the eye chart projection, but I also couldn't see the projection at all with this eye.

GeoffC · 10-08-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

I personally like the formal or polite way of addressing people that French and Spanish use. I'm a bit uncomfortable calling strangers, doctors, and older people by their first names. Mr. or Mrs. works well, and yes sir or yes ma'am also.

VISION UPDATE
I didn't get my eye fixed yesterday. It's too messed up for the laser. Next Tues, they will admit me for anesthesia and a victrectomy. On my good eye.

Meanwhile, I'm having the scarring complication AGAIN on the bad eye, which will need another victrectomy in a few months. Gonna live with the pain and blurriness as long as possible before letting them go back in and scrape loose the scar tissue from the original surgery.

Not only could I not see the big E on the eye chart projection, but I also couldn't see the projection at all with this eye.

thinking of you .....

just take care ....

pilotbob · 10-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Computers SUCK!!!

BOb

GeoffC · 10-08-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Computers SUCK!!!

BOb

no - that be vacuum cleaners .....

pilotbob · 10-08-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

no - that be vacuum cleaners .....

No, I'm pretty sure today it is god forsaken computers, or perhaps it is Windows or just .Net....

Farking problem running our app on 1 customers server... it runs fine on all our test machines and for every other customer.

BOb

GeoffC · 10-08-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

No, I'm pretty sure today it is god forsaken computers, or perhaps it is Windows or just .Net....

Farking problem running our app on 1 customers server... it runs fine on all our test machines and for every other customer.

BOb

blame the customer - they are not always right .....

kennyc · 10-08-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Computers SUCK!!!

BOb

Nah, they just do what you tell them to do.

Some software sucks though!

kennyc · 10-08-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

No, I'm pretty sure today it is god forsaken computers, or perhaps it is Windows or just .Net....

Farking problem running our app on 1 customers server... it runs fine on all our test machines and for every other customer.

BOb

gotta be windows/.net

especially .net -- too many versions/releases/and divergent requirements requiring all versions to remain on the machines!

pilotbob · 10-08-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

gotta be windows/.net

especially .net -- too many versions/releases/and divergent requirements requiring all versions to remain on the machines!

Actually, the versioning on .Net is pretty good, if not a bit confusing. .Net 1.0 and .Net 1.1 included new runtimes... Where .Net 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 all use the same 2.0 CLR/Runtime but each of 3.0 and 3.5 added new libraries, tools and compilers. So, yes if you want to install .Net 3.5 it has to include .Net 2.0/3.0.

Of course they are going to confuse it all with .Net 4.0 which is going to include a new CLR/Runtime again AFAIK.

Although, I don't see an issue with having several versions of .Net on a PC as a problem.

But, the myth that if a .Net app runs on one machine it will run on any one is certainly not true and really farking with me today.

BOb

Lycoming · 10-08-2009, 10:38 AM

May I remind the esteemed and steaming member for Tampa that computers don't suck.....that's gravity. If gravity didn't suck then his aviation experiences would be somewhat different.

I remain Sirs, yours etc etc....

PS May I refer the aformentioned member to my post about conversations with computer manual writers.

badgoodDeb · 10-08-2009, 02:01 PM

Lotsa {{{HUGGSSSSS}}} to DixieGal. Prayers too.

vivaldirules · 10-08-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Lotsa {{{HUGGSSSSS}}} to DixieGal. Prayers too.

Absolutely. I think all of us are thinking of you and hoping for the best, DixieGal. (doggie wags tail)

DMcCunney · 10-08-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Actually, the versioning on .Net is pretty good, if not a bit confusing. .Net 1.0 and .Net 1.1 included new runtimes... Where .Net 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 all use the same 2.0 CLR/Runtime but each of 3.0 and 3.5 added new libraries, tools and compilers. So, yes if you want to install .Net 3.5 it has to include .Net 2.0/3.0.

Of course they are going to confuse it all with .Net 4.0 which is going to include a new CLR/Runtime again AFAIK.

Although, I don't see an issue with having several versions of .Net on a PC as a problem.

It's like the Good Old Days of Visual Basic runtimes. New versions were not supersets of older ones. You had to install the specific ones your applications wanted.

And I've seen a case where a mission critical app that wanted .NET 1.1 failed if .NET 2.0 was also installed in the machine, which made life interesting because another mission critical app required 2.0...

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But, the myth that if a .Net app runs on one machine it will run on any one is certainly not true and really farking with me today.

There are exceptions to any rule, and you get to deal with them. The Director of Developement at a former employer was eloquent about Java not necessarily being "write once, run anywhere", as he'd seen too much non-portable Java code...
______
Dennis

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10-08-2009, 10:09 AM	#5973
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	I personally like the formal or polite way of addressing people that French and Spanish use. I'm a bit uncomfortable calling strangers, doctors, and older people by their first names. Mr. or Mrs. works well, and yes sir or yes ma'am also. VISION UPDATE I didn't get my eye fixed yesterday. It's too messed up for the laser. Next Tues, they will admit me for anesthesia and a victrectomy. On my good eye. Meanwhile, I'm having the scarring complication AGAIN on the bad eye, which will need another victrectomy in a few months. Gonna live with the pain and blurriness as long as possible before letting them go back in and scrape loose the scar tissue from the original surgery. Not only could I not see the big E on the eye chart projection, but I also couldn't see the projection at all with this eye.

10-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#5975
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Computers SUCK!!! BOb

10-08-2009, 10:38 AM	#5982
Lycoming Capt Chaos II Posts: 483 Karma: 33043007 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cornwall, UK Device: iPad2	May I remind the esteemed and steaming member for Tampa that computers don't suck.....that's gravity. If gravity didn't suck then his aviation experiences would be somewhat different. I remain Sirs, yours etc etc.... PS May I refer the aformentioned member to my post about conversations with computer manual writers.

10-08-2009, 02:01 PM	#5983
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,555 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Lotsa {{{HUGGSSSSS}}} to DixieGal. Prayers too.