Anti-Muslim Bias to the International Kindle

[astra]

Originally Posted by ahi

Try and keep your ignorant prejudices out of this thread.

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luqmaninbmore and lev, does the data present in this article make the anti-Muslim bias seem less acute?

- Ahi

You presume too much.

Lower your arrogance a notch. You might benefit from it.

[ahi]

Originally Posted by lev

interesting article and yes that the misconception of Islam = arabs is unfortunately prevalent.

As to whether Amazon is biased on Muslim countries, I do not claim this to be so because of religion but there may be some other common issues that may be indirectly related such as censorship.

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All very good points. Thank you for your comments on the subject!

- Ahi

[luqmaninbmore]

Originally Posted by astra

He is what he is and he knows it very well.

Lol, I am what I am? I'm Popeye now?

[luqmaninbmore]

Originally Posted by ahi

Try and keep your ignorant prejudices out of this thread.

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luqmaninbmore and lev, does the data present in this article make the anti-Muslim bias seem less acute?

- Ahi

Interesting. They are excluding 500 million people by not selling in Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Indonesia. The former two countries definitely have large english speaking populations (English-language schooling is extremely popular in Lahore; there were many street-corner English medium schools there when I visited back in 2005). I wonder if piracy concerns are an issue, at least with Pakistan. The number of pirated books and DVDs there is staggering, many I'm sure coming from China.

Luqman

[desertgrandma]

People, calm down. They've bare begun to scratch the surface in world wide availability.


As someone else posted on this thread, Amazon is a capitalist company. Predjudiced?

They would take money from anyone, anywhere, from Mars if they could. And, more power to them.

I find this thread extremely disturbing......its bringing out te worst in some of us. I wish it were closed.

Lman, what exactly is your point? Do you not realize the complexities of what Amazon is trying to do without bringing racism into it?

[GeoffC]

Let's not get too carried away here .... 51 milllion muslims live in Europe and 10 million in America ....

[Hellmark]

Piracy, I'd say factors largely into it. Not to mention, what is the likelihood of people buying them in those countries?

[ahi]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

People, calm down. They've bare begun to scratch the surface in world wide availability.

As someone else posted on this thread, Amazon is a capitalist company. Predjudiced?

They would take money from anyone, anywhere, from Mars if they could. And, more power to them.

I find this thread extremely disturbing......its bringing out te worst in some of us. I wish it were closed.

Lman, what exactly is your point? Do you not realize the complexities of what Amazon is trying to do without bringing racism into it?

I don't see anybody, other than perhaps the people ridiculing the original poster as being worked up. Nor do I see what there is to be disturbed about at all... other than, again, the aforementioned knee-jerk ridicule.

And his point has been articulated calmly and clearly, I thought. Just above your post, for example.

- Ahi

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Hellmark

Piracy, I'd say factors largely into it. Not to mention, what is the likelihood of people buying them in those countries?

With 500 million people, even if only 1 person in 1000 bought one, that's still half a million sales.

I'm sure that Amazon won't ignore this market for long. They're too savvy for that.

[lev]

Originally Posted by HarryT

With 500 million people, even if only 1 person in 1000 bought one, that's still half a million sales.

I'm sure that Amazon won't ignore this market for long. They're too savvy for that.

I agree. there is no way that amazon would ignore such potential. They will most likely enter those markets once they sort out whatever reason they have for not selling during initial launch.

[lev]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

I find this thread extremely disturbing......its bringing out te worst in some of us. I wish it were closed.

I don't think its that bad.
but for whatever reason if I have inadvertently offended anyone in any way I do apologize.

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by luqmaninbmore

Looking at their international coverage map, there are entire swathes of Saudi that are included in Whispernet coverage. It also extends to Canada and some other countries where the Kindle is not currently sold. Is this indicative of an intention by Amazon to eventually sell to these countries, or is it just the range of coverage offered by their telecom partners?

Have you considered that, perhaps, Amazon is afraid of massive lawsuits or even fatwahs against it because it's Kindle book delivery system would allow books that don't "pass muster" by the various mullahs to be purchased and (Oh my GAWD! Say it ain't so!) even read by the average citizen of those countries? Not saying that *IS* the case, but it might be a factor.

Derek

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

Have you considered that, perhaps, Amazon is afraid of massive lawsuits or even fatwahs against it because it's Kindle book delivery system would allow books that don't "pass muster" by the various mullahs to be purchased and (Oh my GAWD! Say it ain't so!) even read by the average citizen of those countries? Not saying that *IS* the case, but it might be a factor.

Derek

But why should that be any truer, Derek, than religious fanatics in the United States objecting to books promoting, say, Darwinian evolution, or atheism?

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by HarryT

But why should that be any truer, Derek, than religious fanatics in the United States objecting to books promoting, say, Darwinian evolution, or atheism?

Religous fanatics (Christian fanatics, that is) in the US are less likely to use a car bomb to express their displeasure with Amazon.

[Elfwreck]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Religous fanatics (Christian fanatics, that is) in the US are less likely to use a car bomb to express their displeasure with Amazon.

You think so? If our Christian right-wing activists get the idea that Amazon Kindles support abortion rights, there certainly could be bombings.

That said--I doubt the reasons have anything to do with fear of violence, or even (directly) with censorship. I expect it's a matter of economics--Kindle problems with the local languages, ability to supply/maintain wireless coverage (which Amazon insists is required for Kindle sales), and potentially local laws involving imported technology.

Not including them on the first wave of non-US Kindle sales doesn't mean anything. It may just mean "we only have so many Kindles to sell in the next six months, and we're focusing those sales on the countries we expect to buy the most books after they buy Kindles, in order to fund the next wave of non-US Kindle production."