Pocket Pro battery issue? - Page 9

griffonwing · 09-30-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tamzilla

I'm hoping that with all of the various clones out there (original V5, Bebook Mini) someone decides that it's worth to sell replacement batteries at some point, even if it's just on eBay!

I don't mind buying them through Astak, as long as they keep the price reasonable.

I'd much rather have access to a reputable battery manufacturer than having to rely on extremely cheap batteries from China.

kennyc · 09-30-2009, 10:12 AM

As far as the battery issue, I suspect that by the time the battery in my PP needs replacing, I'm going to what to (or will have already) replaced it with something more advanced.

SDRebel · 09-30-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

As far as the battery issue, I suspect that by the time the battery in my PP needs replacing, I'm going to what to (or will have already) replaced it with something more advanced.

but not everyone. Some of us want to keep it for the long run

kennyc · 09-30-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SDRebel

but not everyone. Some of us want to keep it for the long run

I understand, I tend to get my money's worth out of stuff as well.

How's the new one working for you?

Charged mine up overnight, loaded some book and am reading "Moon and Sun" - Vonda N. McIntyre.

Dave_S · 09-30-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SDRebel

but not everyone. Some of us want to keep it for the long run

That is my plan too. I have already figured out how I can replace the stock Chinese battery with a Nokia BL-5C of the same capacity. The Nokia battery is very slightly thicker, so it causes a *small* bulge in the battery cover, but not enough to cause any problem that I can see. My plan does call for removing the wires from the stock battery and soldering them to the Nokia BL-5C, but that is no big deal for us old electric model airplane flyers. Battery soldering is NOT something that everybody should try to do though.

kennyc · 09-30-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

That is my plan too. I have already figured out how I can replace the stock Chinese battery with a Nokia BL-5C of the same capacity. The Nokia battery is very slightly thicker, so it causes a *small* bulge in the battery cover, but not enough to cause any problem that I can see. My plan does call for removing the wires from the stock battery and soldering them to the Nokia BL-5C, but that is no big deal for us old electric model airplane flyers. Battery soldering is NOT something that everybody should try to do though.

Thanks for that!

theducks · 09-30-2009, 11:01 AM

My Factory LG battery says "Made in China".

IIRC My 5 year old Toshiba Laptop battery was made in China.
The real question is "Grade" of the parts used and how good "Quality Control" is.
It is not that there are bad parts, but that they should not make it through the system to the end user.

Dave_S · 09-30-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by theducks

My Factory LG battery says "Made in China".

IIRC My 5 year old Toshiba Laptop battery was made in China.
The real question is "Grade" of the parts used and how good "Quality Control" is.
It is not that there are bad parts, but that they should not make it through the system to the end user.

Very true, a great many Lithium based cells originate in China. Most of the cells that I use in electric flying models are made in China. Materials and quality control can vary a lot depending upon what the rebrander is willing to pay for, so something that has a recognizable name worth protecting usually turns out to be the best quality too. That is IMHO of course.

So far, my stock Chinese battery in my PockePRO has given me no problems at all so my BL-5C plan is just a contingency plan in case it does have problems, or when it finally wears out.

Toeknee · 09-30-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

something that has a recognizable name worth protecting usually turns out to be the best quality

That is good in theory, but even the big boys can have problems. I'm sure everyone recalls the huge recall of laptop batteries a year or two ago. Those batteries were made by Sony and were exploding and going up in flames.

Dave_S · 09-30-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toeknee

That is good in theory, but even the big boys can have problems. I'm sure everyone recalls the huge recall of laptop batteries a year or two ago. Those batteries were made by Sony and were exploding and going up in flames.

It is good in practice too, but there are always exceptions EVERY rule.

For example, the Nokia BL-5C battery that I am thinking of using a possible replacement was subject to a rather large recall program 2 years ago. Nokia did stand behind their product and replaced the defective units. It is highly unlikely that an unknown company with no international brand name recognition to protect would act nearly so responsibly.

Solicitous · 10-01-2009, 06:42 AM

Ok no point in starting a new thread.
I got my PP today and am charging it up. Now I have the PP turned off and whilst charging I see a big battery with a bolt through it and the activity light flash from time to time, so me thinks GREAT it is charging.

Anyway after about 9 or so hours on charge I notice the icon has changed from the battery with a bolt through it to what looks like a AC wall adapter with what I assume is a wall socket to the left of it, and no activity lights flashing nor staying on. Is this a sign of that the battery is charged? Do you only get the fixed indicator light when the PP is turned on? I am running the latest firmware btw, and I'm probably correct in my assumptions but just feel the need to check.

Javed · 10-01-2009, 06:47 AM

Mine got the same wall adaptor icon when I charged it overnight the other day. After this I unplugged it from the wall, the charge indicator at the bottom right then had 4 bars so it seemed fully charged.

Solicitous · 10-01-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Javed

Mine got the same wall adaptor icon when I charged it overnight the other day. After this I unplugged it from the wall, the charge indicator at the bottom right then had 4 bars so it seemed fully charged.

Thanks Javed. I guess the documentation probably only covers charging indicators when it is turned on.

Javed · 10-01-2009, 06:50 AM

Also the indicator light at top left didn't do anything when fully charged for me either.

kennyc · 10-01-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Solicitous

Ok no point in starting a new thread.
I got my PP today and am charging it up. Now I have the PP turned off and whilst charging I see a big battery with a bolt through it and the activity light flash from time to time, so me thinks GREAT it is charging.

Anyway after about 9 or so hours on charge I notice the icon has changed from the battery with a bolt through it to what looks like a AC wall adapter with what I assume is a wall socket to the left of it, and no activity lights flashing nor staying on. Is this a sign of that the battery is charged? Do you only get the fixed indicator light when the PP is turned on? I am running the latest firmware btw, and I'm probably correct in my assumptions but just feel the need to check.

Yeah don't you love how much clear concise information is supplied.

Your assumption is as good as mine and they match.

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09-30-2009, 10:12 AM	#122
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,898 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	As far as the battery issue, I suspect that by the time the battery in my PP needs replacing, I'm going to what to (or will have already) replaced it with something more advanced.

09-30-2009, 11:01 AM	#127
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,064 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	My Factory LG battery says "Made in China". IIRC My 5 year old Toshiba Laptop battery was made in China. The real question is "Grade" of the parts used and how good "Quality Control" is. It is not that there are bad parts, but that they should not make it through the system to the end user.

10-01-2009, 06:42 AM	#131
Solicitous Wizard Posts: 1,434 Karma: 1525776 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TAS, Australia Device: Astak Pocket Pro (Black), 2 x Kindle WiFi (Graphite), iPod Touch 4G	Ok no point in starting a new thread. I got my PP today and am charging it up. Now I have the PP turned off and whilst charging I see a big battery with a bolt through it and the activity light flash from time to time, so me thinks GREAT it is charging. Anyway after about 9 or so hours on charge I notice the icon has changed from the battery with a bolt through it to what looks like a AC wall adapter with what I assume is a wall socket to the left of it, and no activity lights flashing nor staying on. Is this a sign of that the battery is charged? Do you only get the fixed indicator light when the PP is turned on? I am running the latest firmware btw, and I'm probably correct in my assumptions but just feel the need to check.

10-01-2009, 06:47 AM	#132
Javed Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,270 Karma: 1126878541 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Astak Pocket PRO, iPod Touch, PRS-650	Mine got the same wall adaptor icon when I charged it overnight the other day. After this I unplugged it from the wall, the charge indicator at the bottom right then had 4 bars so it seemed fully charged.

10-01-2009, 06:50 AM	#134
Javed Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,270 Karma: 1126878541 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Astak Pocket PRO, iPod Touch, PRS-650	Also the indicator light at top left didn't do anything when fully charged for me either.