geographic restrictions at Fictionwise - Page 26

rosspag · 09-28-2009, 05:43 PM

Hy everyone,
first of all, sorry for the poor english. i'm italian and living in italy so geographical restrictions are affecting me a lot. i don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but more and more often Fictionwise displays the listing of countries where they can sell the ebooks and these lists stop at letter G... as in these cases:

[I]Paradise Rules by Beth Kery
Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [388 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT
All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED
Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148631
GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AI, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AU, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FJ, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GH, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR

or this one:
[I]Bed of Roses by Nora Roberts
Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [500 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT
All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED
Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148945
GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR, GS, GT, GU, GW, GY

Where are the other countries? Does the world stop at Greece o Guyana?! by the way, USA are missing!

Bye to all

Alfy · 09-28-2009, 07:30 PM

I think these are States...

kennyc · 09-28-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosspag

Hy everyone,
first of all, sorry for the poor english. i'm italian and living in italy so geographical restrictions are affecting me a lot. i don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but more and more often Fictionwise displays the listing of countries where they can sell the ebooks and these lists stop at letter G... as in these cases:

[I]Paradise Rules by Beth Kery
Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [388 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT
All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED
Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148631
GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AI, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AU, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FJ, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GH, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR

or this one:
[I]Bed of Roses by Nora Roberts
Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [500 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT
All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED
Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148945
GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR, GS, GT, GU, GW, GY

Where are the other countries? Does the world stop at Greece o Guyana?! by the way, USA are missing!

Bye to all

It may be that the implementation displaying this just simply ran out of space, there may be a full list, but it is not displayed.

Sweetpea · 09-29-2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfy

I think these are States...

No, they are not states... I've seen those lists before. Looks like they want to list all countries but a few...

pwarren · 09-29-2009, 02:49 AM

All those countries, and still not available for AU

Terisa de morgan · 09-29-2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwarren

All those countries, and still not available for AU

I'm afraid they're listing non-English speaking countries (nice for a Spanish girl).

brudigia · 09-29-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

I'm absolutely positive that with an Astak you can read both DRM'd ePub and DRM FREE Mobi with the same firmware. What you can't do is read DRM'd EPUB and DRM'd Mobi on the same device. I had a Pocket Pro in hand and tried it myself.

That is extremely interesting. The Pocket Pro costs $199, which in is equivalent to €140, roughly, maybe something more, and according to the actual exchange rate.
The Booken Opus is €240, thus about 100 euros more. Thanks for the clue.

rosspag · 09-29-2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyc

It may be that the implementation displaying this just simply ran out of space, there may be a full list, but it is not displayed.

i totally agree with you kennyc! it's seem to me that they run out of space so we get to see only part of the countries allowed to purchase the ebook and maybe as a customer from Italy i'm allowed to buy it but i can discover this only upon checkout!
bye

kennyc · 09-29-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosspag

i totally agree with you kennyc! it's seem to me that they run out of space so we get to see only part of the countries allowed to purchase the ebook and maybe as a customer from Italy i'm allowed to buy it but i can discover this only upon checkout!
bye

Yep. Not a good thing. We need to totally remove these geographic/territory restrictions (as well as DRM

).

JSWolf · 09-29-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulkas

This issue isn't going to go away (at least for the forseeable) and there's also speculation that Amazon wants to let mobipocket wither and die, so I suppose the question is what format to buy/convert to which is futureproofed.

PDF? ePUB? Do either of these allow you to bookmark? Can PDF resize text or is still reliant on 'zooming'? Are there convertors mobi -> new format? (All my mobipocket books are DRM-Free or DeDRM'd.

Comments/suggests...

I have a 505 and it does allow me to bookmark ePub. I've not tried to bookmark PDF, but I'd think that would also work. It's not the format that allows bookmarks or not, it's the viewer software that allows or not.

As of right now, I'd say ePub was your best choice. It's easily convertible to other formats if need be and given that most readers support ePub, you'd be able to use ePub on any future device except the Kindle as Amazon wants complete control and they cannot have it with ePub. PDF is the worst format as an archive format as converting from PDF can sometimes be very problematical.

JSWolf · 09-29-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowl

When you consider how well Amazon seem to have planned things out, it does seem so strange that they seem so determined to ignore other countries e.g. they have at least 3 amazon sites in europe and getting the kindle into some of those markets would seem to be their best chance of slowing down ePuB adoption.

Once Sony switches their store to ePub, I think Amazon is going to be in for some real trouble. This means it'll be the rest of the readers vs. Amazon and Amazon won't win since they aren't outside the USA.

kennyc · 09-29-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Once Sony switches their store to ePub, I think Amazon is going to be in for some real trouble. This means it'll be the rest of the readers vs. Amazon and Amazon won't win since they aren't outside the USA.

Exactly.

geertm · 09-29-2009, 01:15 PM

Today I wanted to download Frostbitten by Kelley Armstrong. The book had the extra bookshelf credit card check, so I used www.hidemyass.com to download the book.
Now the extra bookshelf check is gone.
This is probably related to the recent problem when books bought in the past suddenly had the extra bookshelf check. It looks like the extra bookshelf check now only is activated for books that have never been downloaded.
This makes it at least easier to re-download the book again in the future.

I wonder which books get the extra bookshelf check? This is the first book in my bookshelf where I get this extra check. Is the extra check only active for certain publishers? Or authors? Or only very popular books?

Sweetpea · 09-30-2009, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geertm

Today I wanted to download Frostbitten by Kelley Armstrong. The book had the extra bookshelf credit card check, so I used www.hidemyass.com to download the book.
Now the extra bookshelf check is gone.
This is probably related to the recent problem when books bought in the past suddenly had the extra bookshelf check. It looks like the extra bookshelf check now only is activated for books that have never been downloaded.
This makes it at least easier to re-download the book again in the future.

I wonder which books get the extra bookshelf check? This is the first book in my bookshelf where I get this extra check. Is the extra check only active for certain publishers? Or authors? Or only very popular books?

I only have it for one book right now, and that's for The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown from Random House, Inc./Knopf Doubleday. And I have it in ereader format.

angryvegan · 09-30-2009, 02:26 AM

I just got the extra credit-card check again for a book "The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the Challenges to American Power" which I doubt is very popular so it must be particular publishers?

The most annoying thing is Fictionwise lets you pay for it before you find out you can't download it. I think if they are going to implement this policy then they should also implement some kind of filtering so it's less frustrating for their customers... I think they've handled the whole thing very poorly.

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09-28-2009, 05:43 PM	#376
rosspag Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 111918 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Francavilla al Mare, Abruzzo, Italy Device: Cybook gen3, Sony PRS-T1, Ipod Touch, Galaxy Tab 7.7	Hy everyone, first of all, sorry for the poor english. i'm italian and living in italy so geographical restrictions are affecting me a lot. i don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but more and more often Fictionwise displays the listing of countries where they can sell the ebooks and these lists stop at letter G... as in these cases: [I]Paradise Rules by Beth Kery Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [388 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148631 GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AI, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AU, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FJ, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GH, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR or this one: [I]Bed of Roses by Nora Roberts Available eBook Formats [Secure Mobipocket/eReader (recommended) - What's this?]: SECURE MOBIPOCKET FORMAT [500 KB], SECURE EREADER (RECOMMENDED) FORMAT All formats: Printing DISABLED, Read-aloud DISABLED Mobipocket Reader ISBN: 9781101148945 GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS: Available to customers in: AD, AE, AF, AG, AL, AM, AN, AO, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AW, AZ, BA, BB, BD, BE, BF, BG, BH, BI, BJ, BM, BN, BO, BR, BS, BT, BV, BW, BY, BZ, CA, CC, CD, CF, CG, CH, CI, CK, CL, CM, CN, CO, CR, CU, CV, CX, CY, CZ, DE, DJ, DK, DM, DO, DZ, EC, EE, EG, EH, ER, ES, ET, FI, FK, FM, FO, FR, GA, GD, GE, GF, GI, GL, GM, GN, GP, GQ, GR, GS, GT, GU, GW, GY Where are the other countries? Does the world stop at Greece o Guyana?! by the way, USA are missing! Bye to all

09-28-2009, 07:30 PM	#377
Alfy Liseur de Bonne Aventure Posts: 374 Karma: 2176666 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris, France Device: PRS T1	I think these are States...

09-29-2009, 02:49 AM	#380
pwarren Connoisseur Posts: 95 Karma: 186186 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canberra, Australia Device: Irex Iliad (Dead), EcoReader (Smashed screen), Kobo Touch	All those countries, and still not available for AU

09-29-2009, 01:15 PM	#388
geertm Guru Posts: 822 Karma: 2000000 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kobo Aura One	Today I wanted to download Frostbitten by Kelley Armstrong. The book had the extra bookshelf credit card check, so I used www.hidemyass.com to download the book. Now the extra bookshelf check is gone. This is probably related to the recent problem when books bought in the past suddenly had the extra bookshelf check. It looks like the extra bookshelf check now only is activated for books that have never been downloaded. This makes it at least easier to re-download the book again in the future. I wonder which books get the extra bookshelf check? This is the first book in my bookshelf where I get this extra check. Is the extra check only active for certain publishers? Or authors? Or only very popular books?

09-30-2009, 02:26 AM	#390
angryvegan Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Sony PRS 505	I just got the extra credit-card check again for a book "The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the Challenges to American Power" which I doubt is very popular so it must be particular publishers? The most annoying thing is Fictionwise lets you pay for it before you find out you can't download it. I think if they are going to implement this policy then they should also implement some kind of filtering so it's less frustrating for their customers... I think they've handled the whole thing very poorly.