The Vent and Rant Thread

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Can you tell by looking at the cow, still on the hoof, which one is going to taste best??

Nope, but I knew the ranchers well enough to trust their judgement.

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

(doggie looks around to see who is watching)

Okay, I'll say this only once. I've lived in Texas for over 20 years and I've never had a piece of beef here that was as tasty as Iowa corn-fed beef.

(doggie runs and hides)

LOL Vivaldi...it's ok honey. To each his/her/their own.

[montsnmags]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

Ok, besides the fact (and I've seen the shattered cars to prove it) that there is nothing worse than a Black Angus on a dark night, the reason they taste dry is that Angus is supposed to be leaner than other beef. Since it's the fat that makes meat juicy and tender, you see the oxymoron there.
...

My experience with lean meats is that they can, indeed, be very tasty, but you tend to want them to be cooked appropriately (i.e. generally rare). Kangaroo is a lovely meat, but very low in fat. If you overcook it, as is easy to do, it goes dry and leathery. Rare is best usually. I can't imagine making kangaroo into burger mince, seeing as it would be so easy to overcook it (or, rather so hard not to), so it makes me wonder, if Angus is supposed to be leaner, if making a burger out of it is a good idea, or the best way to eat it. I think it's reasonable to say though, that it's hard to judge the quality of poorly/inappropriately-cooked produce.

Personally I like Wagyū, which is definitely not a "lean meat", but it's not an often-thing as it tends to be on the pricey side.

Cheers,
Marc

[phenomshel]

I don't think the rationale of how the consumer will be cooking it is the thought uppermost in the marketing genius's minds. I think what's going on is that the perception here in the U.S. is that "leaner is better" so they decided to market it that way. My husband, lovely man though he is, hates fat in meat. So when he picks up ground beef, he goes for the leanest thing he can find, and then wonders why the burgers are dry. I've tried explaining it, but he's as stubborn as they come.

[montsnmags]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

I don't think the rationale of how the consumer will be cooking it is the thought uppermost in the marketing genius's minds. I think what's going on is that the perception here in the U.S. is that "leaner is better" so they decided to market it that way. My husband, lovely man though he is, hates fat in meat. So when he picks up ground beef, he goes for the leanest thing he can find, and then wonders why the burgers are dry. I've tried explaining it, but he's as stubborn as they come.

I don't know if it's popular over there, but here at a lot of (family-owned) burger-and-chips shops, and even restaurants (who are prone to using the aforementioned Wagyū and other ingredients to fancy it up some) you can usually order a "steak sandwich". In our case, it's often got cooked onion and barbecue sauce on, but it should have a decent fillet of steak on it (without being super-thick - it should be more thin than thick). Maybe your husband could try something like that, or whatever homemade variation he'd prefer? Just a thought...that makes me feel like a steak sandwich right about now.

Cheers,
Marc

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by montsnmags

I don't know if it's popular over there, but here at a lot of (family-owned) burger-and-chips shops, and even restaurants (who are prone to using the aforementioned Wagyū and other ingredients to fancy it up some) you can usually order a "steak sandwich". In our case, it's often got cooked onion and barbecue sauce on, but it should have a decent fillet of steak on it (without being super-thick - it should be more thin than thick). Maybe your husband could try something like that, or whatever homemade variation he'd prefer? Just a thought...that makes me feel like a steak sandwich right about now.

Cheers,
Marc

That does sound good, Marc.

[badgoodDeb]

It does! Throw another steak on the barbie, and we'll both be over to try it?

P.S. What on earth is Wagyu with a bar over the u ?

[kennyc]

My rant is why the h*ll won't a certain company's customer support respond to my emails!!!!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

It does! Throw another steak on the barbie, and we'll both be over to try it?

P.S. What on earth is Wagyu with a bar over the u ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagy%C5%AB

[Lady Blue]

I'm so glad I'm not of the cattle persuasion.

I would so not like to be known for my marbling characteristics.

[DixieGal]

Originally Posted by Lady Blue

I'm so glad I'm not of the cattle persuasion.

I would so not like to be known for my marbling characteristics.

Me too, especially since I'm mostly marbled. Especially my butt.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

Me too, especially since I'm mostly marbled. Especially my butt.

No offense. I'm pretty "marbled" myself.

[DixieGal]

Originally Posted by kennyc

No offense. I'm pretty "marbled" myself.

No offense taken - just shows there's more tenderness to us than just what is in our hearts.

[kazbates]

Originally Posted by kennyc

My rant is why the h*ll won't a certain company's customer support respond to my emails!!!!

Are your emails presented in a friendly and nonconfrontational manner or are you yelling at them. My mother likes to say, "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar." She never actually follows that saying (I have made it my life's mission not to be on the vinegar side).

And to be honest. . .who really wants to catch flies, anyway!!

[kazbates]

Originally Posted by Lady Blue

I'm so glad I'm not of the cattle persuasion.

I would so not like to be known for my marbling characteristics.

Ain't that the truth!!!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by kazbates

Are your emails presented in a friendly and nonconfrontational manner or are you yelling at them. My mother likes to say, "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar." She never actually follows that saying (I have made it my life's mission not to be on the vinegar side).

And to be honest. . .who really wants to catch flies, anyway!!

Oh yes, always try to be nice.

(even when book banning is being discussed. )