Sigil, the ePub editor - Page 11

Ravensknight · 08-18-2009, 11:58 AM

hey, just wanted to thankyou for all your hardwork.

Just used Sigil for the first time about 15min ago, and I must say, I liked it, a lot!

pieter · 09-03-2009, 09:00 AM

finally!

I was starting to wonder how epub could ever be considered a standard format without any "normal" (WYSIWYG) editors. Love what you've done with Sigil. Thanks!

Moonraker · 09-10-2009, 01:33 PM

Today was the first time I discovered Sigil.

It is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you! Thank you!

I was impressed how smoothly it ran and especially how it did not corrupt my xhtml code when I saved as ePub.

I take great care in producing clean xhtml code and always use Amaya to validate that it conforms to the WC3 standard.

Sigil is the only app I have ever used for conversion that did not produce horrendous code "under the hood".
It made only two changes to my file -- changed my UTF-8 to UTF-16, and changed my "Transitional" to "Strict" Both good changes in my view.

Congratulations for this much needed application. I shall use it every day.

Valloric · 09-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonraker

Today was the first time I discovered Sigil.

It is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you! Thank you!

You are most certainly welcome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonraker

I take great care in producing clean xhtml code and always use Amaya to validate that it conforms to the WC3 standard.

Sigil is the only app I have ever used for conversion that did not produce horrendous code "under the hood".
It made only two changes to my file -- changed my UTF-8 to UTF-16, and changed my "Transitional" to "Strict" Both good changes in my view.

Yes, this is paramount for me too. Sigil will not only preserve your code if it doesn't have any errors, but it will detect them if it does and then fix them. And if your code is a mess, it will try to clean it to the best of its capabilities and pretty-print the resulting XHTML.

It's a bit rough around the edges in other areas, but I'm working on it.

Moonraker · 09-10-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

It's a bit rough around the edges in other areas, but I'm working on it.

For my purposes I am very happy with Sigil the way it is. It creates beautiful ePub files from my html files and works as smooth as silk into the bargain.

I have hundreds of html ebook files because it is a format that I have created as backup for many years. I intend to change over from .prc to ePub in the near future and together with my backup files Stigil will be indispensible to me.

Anything new that may come along will be a added bonus.

orwell2k · 09-14-2009, 06:03 AM

Great work!

Again, it takes enthusiastic amateurs who devote their own personal time to develop a great tool. More than that, an essential tool, without which most reader devices would be poorly suited to displaying the "standard" ePub books.

Makes you wonder what the hell is going on out there, doesn't it?

Lady_3Jane · 09-16-2009, 11:42 AM

THis is pretty much awsome!
Thanks for the effort and the great work!

3Jane

JvdW · 09-17-2009, 02:42 AM

Hi Valloric,

First

for your work on Sigil. I really like it sofar.
Second I came across a reference to a program you might or might not already have seen and you might be able to 'steal' a few ideas from, namely Kompozer
( http://kompozer.net )
It has for example: css editor, search&replace ;-)

Thanks,

Joop

Valloric · 09-17-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JvdW

Second I came across a reference to a program you might or might not already have seen and you might be able to 'steal' a few ideas from, namely Kompozer
( http://kompozer.net )
It has for example: css editor, search&replace ;-)

Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been meaning to take a look at Kate editor's source code.

mrmikel · 09-17-2009, 09:54 AM

I would prefer that using the space bar does NOT insert a non-breaking space. I have not tested to see whether Sigil does, but Kompozer does. It causes display problems on the Sony reader with line breaks in awkward places.

An option setting would be great for those who need a typed spaced to be non-breaking.

BTW Kompozer also deletes unnecessarily when you right click paste instead of Control V.

Kompozer in its current alpha version loads faster, has a better interface that doesn't intermittently crash on source code view, but some of its functions just don't work (to be expected in an alpha) compared to the stable version. It does display quite similarly to the presentation in the e book.

If you should adopt part of it PLEASE kill off the automatic default to alternative text (useless in my PRS505) in placing images. It demands alternative text unless you select otherwise.

Valloric · 09-17-2009, 01:41 PM

You're getting a bit ahead of yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

I would prefer that using the space bar does NOT insert a non-breaking space. I have not tested to see whether Sigil does, but Kompozer does.

Sigil doesn't. Why should I care that Komposer does? Sigil has zero relation to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

BTW Kompozer also deletes unnecessarily when you right click paste instead of Control V.

Again, why should I care?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

Kompozer in its current alpha version loads faster, has a better interface that doesn't intermittently crash on source code view, but some of its functions just don't work (to be expected in an alpha) compared to the stable version. It does display quite similarly to the presentation in the e book.

If you've experienced crashes with Sigil's Code View, please report them to the tracker (with test cases) so I can fix them. They're not going to go away by themselves. But I personally haven't seen Sigil crash in a long time... I could just be lucky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

If you should adopt part of it PLEASE kill off the automatic default to alternative text (useless in my PRS505) in placing images. It demands alternative text unless you select otherwise.

I have no intention of adopting any part of it. I never have. I appreciated the suggestion to maybe look at their code and see if there's something interesting there, but Komposer is built on a completely different (and incompatible) foundation that there's really no point.

rakulos · 09-19-2009, 09:02 AM

Hi,
Just to say, thank you for an great application!
Any chance the Linux version will make it into a package I can install via Synaptic? I'm in utter Linux noob and managed an epic fail on setting it up on my Ubuntu netbook. Works amazing on my windows box though

Valloric · 09-19-2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakulos

Hi,
Just to say, thank you for an great application!
Any chance the Linux version will make it into a package I can install via Synaptic? I'm in utter Linux noob and managed an epic fail on setting it up on my Ubuntu netbook. Works amazing on my windows box though

No DEB package, but the next version will have a binary installer (the kind you use on Windows) and that should be easy to use.

JohnnyD · 09-21-2009, 07:14 AM

Hi Valloric,

first of all: thanks for Sigil, it looks like a perfect solution for creating epub documents.

I would like to share my first experiences, thoughts and wishes with Sigil:
- it's a bit slow when editing a document of 50 chapters (but if I'm correct, you're allready working on that)
- a css-editor would be very much appreciated! At this moment, I open up the epub file (after renaming it to .zip) to get access to the css file inside. Quite tedious and risky!
- something of a script engine would be nice, for example to automaticaly insert "drop capital" code at the start of every chapter
- font management (I'm not really sure about this, but my BeBook does not seem to find the Garamond font file which I copied to my Bebook font directory. However, when I manually include the font file in my epub file, it will display my Garamond text correctly). This would mean maintaining a font directory in the epub file and adjusting the css file accordingly.

Of course it is not my intention to get you to insert a css editor, script engine and font management right away, I more would like to have your (and others) opinion about these three points.

Cheers,
Johan.

EowynCarter · 09-21-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valloric

No DEB package, but the next version will have a binary installer (the kind you use on Windows) and that should be easy to use.

Tanks for that

09-14-2009, 06:03 AM	#156
orwell2k Addict Posts: 357 Karma: 1112 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Euroland Device: PocketBook 360°, BeBook (Hanlin V3), iRex DR1000S, iPad	Great work! Again, it takes enthusiastic amateurs who devote their own personal time to develop a great tool. More than that, an essential tool, without which most reader devices would be poorly suited to displaying the "standard" ePub books. Makes you wonder what the hell is going on out there, doesn't it? Last edited by orwell2k; 09-14-2009 at 06:05 AM.

09-17-2009, 09:54 AM	#160
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	In your revisions I would prefer that using the space bar does NOT insert a non-breaking space. I have not tested to see whether Sigil does, but Kompozer does. It causes display problems on the Sony reader with line breaks in awkward places. An option setting would be great for those who need a typed spaced to be non-breaking. BTW Kompozer also deletes unnecessarily when you right click paste instead of Control V. Kompozer in its current alpha version loads faster, has a better interface that doesn't intermittently crash on source code view, but some of its functions just don't work (to be expected in an alpha) compared to the stable version. It does display quite similarly to the presentation in the e book. If you should adopt part of it PLEASE kill off the automatic default to alternative text (useless in my PRS505) in placing images. It demands alternative text unless you select otherwise.

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08-18-2009, 11:58 AM	#151
Ravensknight Serpent Rider Posts: 1,123 Karma: 10219804 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Sony 350; Nook STR; Oasis	hey, just wanted to thankyou for all your hardwork. Just used Sigil for the first time about 15min ago, and I must say, I liked it, a lot!

09-03-2009, 09:00 AM	#152
pieter Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 501 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: CyBook Gen3	finally! I was starting to wonder how epub could ever be considered a standard format without any "normal" (WYSIWYG) editors. Love what you've done with Sigil. Thanks!

09-10-2009, 01:33 PM	#153
Moonraker Addict Posts: 314 Karma: 1002965 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Device: ILiad. Gen 3, PocketBook 360, Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Oasis 2	Today was the first time I discovered Sigil. It is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you! Thank you! I was impressed how smoothly it ran and especially how it did not corrupt my xhtml code when I saved as ePub. I take great care in producing clean xhtml code and always use Amaya to validate that it conforms to the WC3 standard. Sigil is the only app I have ever used for conversion that did not produce horrendous code "under the hood". It made only two changes to my file -- changed my UTF-8 to UTF-16, and changed my "Transitional" to "Strict" Both good changes in my view. Congratulations for this much needed application. I shall use it every day.

09-16-2009, 11:42 AM	#157
Lady_3Jane total greenhorn Posts: 55 Karma: 2452 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Germany Device: PRS 505; Galaxy Tab; PRS 350; Kobo Glo	THis is pretty much awsome! Thanks for the effort and the great work! 3Jane

09-17-2009, 02:42 AM	#158
JvdW Zealot Posts: 115 Karma: 150 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Netherlands Veenendaal Device: Palm T5, Sony PRS-505, Nook Color	Hi Valloric, First for your work on Sigil. I really like it sofar. Second I came across a reference to a program you might or might not already have seen and you might be able to 'steal' a few ideas from, namely Kompozer ( http://kompozer.net ) It has for example: css editor, search&replace ;-) Thanks, Joop

09-19-2009, 09:02 AM	#162
rakulos Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 36 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: ipad, K3, acer aspire switch 10	Hi, Just to say, thank you for an great application! Any chance the Linux version will make it into a package I can install via Synaptic? I'm in utter Linux noob and managed an epic fail on setting it up on my Ubuntu netbook. Works amazing on my windows box though

09-21-2009, 07:14 AM	#164
JohnnyD Connoisseur Posts: 95 Karma: 72819 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Device: Cybook Gen3 (cracked screen)/Bebook/Nokia E60/Nokia 5800/Kobo Aura HD	Hi Valloric, first of all: thanks for Sigil, it looks like a perfect solution for creating epub documents. I would like to share my first experiences, thoughts and wishes with Sigil: - it's a bit slow when editing a document of 50 chapters (but if I'm correct, you're allready working on that) - a css-editor would be very much appreciated! At this moment, I open up the epub file (after renaming it to .zip) to get access to the css file inside. Quite tedious and risky! - something of a script engine would be nice, for example to automaticaly insert "drop capital" code at the start of every chapter - font management (I'm not really sure about this, but my BeBook does not seem to find the Garamond font file which I copied to my Bebook font directory. However, when I manually include the font file in my epub file, it will display my Garamond text correctly). This would mean maintaining a font directory in the epub file and adjusting the css file accordingly. Of course it is not my intention to get you to insert a css editor, script engine and font management right away, I more would like to have your (and others) opinion about these three points. Cheers, Johan.