Gizmodo just tore the sony 600 and 300 a new one - Page 2

kennyc · 09-14-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andybaby

lots of bad information. its sad.

Yep. Not a significant review. Yeah, they have their issues, but he seems more into drama than facts.

Superlucky · 09-14-2009, 10:38 PM

I thought the review was pretty fair. He makes a good point about the 600's glare:

"Pack in touch screens, pack in SD card readers, search, dictionary, library-book borrowing. You can pack it all in, but never, ever at the cost of that primary role. With the $300 6" resistive-touchscreen Touch Edition, Sony fails to heed this simple agenda."

The 505 compares favorably to both devices and Sony quit making them!

Dylrob · 09-15-2009, 12:48 AM

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to iRex's Digital Reader, which actually has a touchscreen. It's too bad Sony couldn't figure out (or buy) iRex's secret.

It's hardly a secret that iRex uses Wacom technology.

LDBoblo · 09-15-2009, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowl

Just as a matter of interest, but do many people on here actually read books the way he was describing, jumping around in them rather than reading them straight through? To me that just seems a weird way to read a book unless you were studying it or something.

I read dynamically, both in novels and in other types of text. It's one of the biggest annoyances about ebook readers for me, since they really are crippled for anyone who reads non-linearly.

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While a lot of his points were at least partly fair, the overuse of the word kindle was extremely tiresome and the complaint about the lack of a memory card slot seems more than a little churlish when the included memory will be good for at least 500 books.

Agree on the Kindle mentions...it reminds me of the iPod drops in every music player review..."could this be the fabled iPod killer?"

Memory cards aren't just because we need more space. I much prefer to do transfers and sneakernet-style sharing with SD or CF cards. I also can use cards for many different purposes with several different devices. I have enough books to max out the internal memory, but that isn't an issue to me at all. The SD slot gives me some degree of modularity.

HansTWN · 09-15-2009, 05:27 AM

Sony didn't pay the reviewer enough, or refused to place an add on their blog....

Crowl · 09-15-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LDBoblo

Memory cards aren't just because we need more space. I much prefer to do transfers and sneakernet-style sharing with SD or CF cards. I also can use cards for many different purposes with several different devices. I have enough books to max out the internal memory, but that isn't an issue to me at all. The SD slot gives me some degree of modularity.

Fair enough on the alternative transfer point, that will be a valid use for some people, but for an entry-level product cutting it out seems a sensible when its primary use will be covered by the internal memory.

LDBoblo · 09-15-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowl

Fair enough on the alternative transfer point, that will be a valid use for some people, but for an entry-level product cutting it out seems a sensible when its primary use will be covered by the internal memory.

Yeah Sony is talented at half-screwing everyone. Want to use a card? Get the expensive one with the inferior (as if the 505/300 isn't insulting enough) screen!

To be honest, I was shocked that early versions supported SD...that's very uncharacteristic of Sony. Normally I'd suspect they'd only offer MemoryStick or whatever their proprietary silliness is called. The whole proprietary approach to ebook readers is quite a turnoff.

Tattncat · 09-15-2009, 10:20 AM

1) He obviously hasn't figured out how to hold it, when he's reading in bed.
2) I bought a 700 built in reading light, no problem with reflected glare when reading in bed.
End result (for me). I went from my 505 to the 700 and haven't looked back.

Crowl · 09-15-2009, 10:29 AM

Looking at the new sony range, it does seem like the designers were told there had to be a wider variation in features between each model, presumably to make it easier for marketing.

Even though a feature like a touchscreen doesn't really improve the core function of an ebook reader it would seem like a fairly big difference in a comparison between the 600 and the 300, not to mention being a different from kindles as well.

Abecedary · 09-15-2009, 10:56 AM

What Sony needs to do is re-introduce the 505 as the "Reader Classic". Pretty much keep it the same (same form-factor, same slots, same screen, etc), but maybe bump up the processor/controller chips.

kennyc · 09-15-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Abecedary

What Sony needs to do is re-introduce the 505 as the "Reader Classic". Pretty much keep it the same (same form-factor, same slots, same screen, etc), but maybe bump up the processor/controller chips.

+10

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afv011 · 09-15-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Abecedary

What Sony needs to do is re-introduce the 505 as the "Reader Classic". Pretty much keep it the same (same form-factor, same slots, same screen, etc), but maybe bump up the processor/controller chips.

Totally agree. Add folder support, and I'm sold.

ranma · 09-15-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by davidspitzer

the default turn page swipe as noted in the review is counter-intuitive for me - left to right (although may make sense due to its Japenese origin) It is easily changable though in the settings to change with a swipe from right to left which felt more like a page turn to me - I think th reviewer missed that you can change it

but i do agree with his assesment of the glare (Not withstanding unique definitions ala JSWolf)

It's not because Japanese origin, its human nature. You feel more comfortable to swipe left to right by your right hand (assume you are right-handed).

John F · 09-15-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ranma

It's not because Japanese origin, its human nature. You feel more comfortable to swipe left to right by your right hand (assume you are right-handed).

I don't know, right to left seems more natural, IMO. It's how I turn a page (on a book, newspaper, ...). Isn't right to left how OS X works?

Although I think I would prefer some mode where just touching the screen would advance a page, for casual reading (who needs to waist all that effort swiping).

Superlucky · 09-15-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Abecedary

What Sony needs to do is re-introduce the 505 as the "Reader Classic". Pretty much keep it the same (same form-factor, same slots, same screen, etc), but maybe bump up the processor/controller chips.

A-MEN!!

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09-14-2009, 10:38 PM	#17
Superlucky Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 5952 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: PRS-505, PRS-350	I thought the review was pretty fair. He makes a good point about the 600's glare: "Pack in touch screens, pack in SD card readers, search, dictionary, library-book borrowing. You can pack it all in, but never, ever at the cost of that primary role. With the $300 6" resistive-touchscreen Touch Edition, Sony fails to heed this simple agenda." The 505 compares favorably to both devices and Sony quit making them!

09-15-2009, 05:27 AM	#20
HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	Sony didn't pay the reviewer enough, or refused to place an add on their blog....

09-15-2009, 10:20 AM	#23
Tattncat Bookworm Posts: 673 Karma: 1029391 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA Device: Nook Tablet, Samsung Galaxy Tab3, Sony PRS700, Sony PRS505	1) He obviously hasn't figured out how to hold it, when he's reading in bed. 2) I bought a 700 built in reading light, no problem with reflected glare when reading in bed. End result (for me). I went from my 505 to the 700 and haven't looked back.

09-15-2009, 10:29 AM	#24
Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	Looking at the new sony range, it does seem like the designers were told there had to be a wider variation in features between each model, presumably to make it easier for marketing. Even though a feature like a touchscreen doesn't really improve the core function of an ebook reader it would seem like a fairly big difference in a comparison between the 600 and the 300, not to mention being a different from kindles as well.

09-15-2009, 10:56 AM	#25
Abecedary Exwyzeeologist Posts: 535 Karma: 3261 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: :PRS-505::iPod touch:	What Sony needs to do is re-introduce the 505 as the "Reader Classic". Pretty much keep it the same (same form-factor, same slots, same screen, etc), but maybe bump up the processor/controller chips.