Gizmodo just tore the sony 600 and 300 a new one

davidspitzer · 09-14-2009, 05:56 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5359122/sony-read...ny-compromises

LDBoblo · 09-14-2009, 06:07 PM

Seems reasonable...though the Kindle comparisons are a bit tiring...

Andybaby · 09-14-2009, 06:08 PM

lots of bad information. its sad.

DixieGal · 09-14-2009, 06:14 PM

He doesn't emphasize clearly enough that the touch screen causes the glare. However, the touch screen is the biggest selling point for ithe 600. This is why I never read reviews of ebook devices, because it gets me all riled up.

LDBoblo · 09-14-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

He doesn't emphasize clearly enough that the touch screen causes the glare. However, the touch screen is the biggest selling point for ithe 600. This is why I never read reviews of ebook devices, because it gets me all riled up.

I'm not sure why the author would need to emphasize the touch/glare relationship. The touch edition has glare, and that was stated. The pocket edition has less glare, and that was stated too, no? They even mentioned that the daily edition will probably have glare too, due to its touch screen. I'm not certain what they missed that is so critical.

advocate2 · 09-14-2009, 06:36 PM

The CNET reviews gave the 300 a higher rating than the 600 as well. All the extra functionality aside, the two most important factors in E-readers are readability and library access. The reviewer refers to Sony library access as a positive. He just is very sensitive to the glare. Once anyone gets access to a decent library with ebooks I just can't understand picking a Kindle over a Sony. The glare issue is bound to cause some readers to vote against the Sony. There is no way around it.

I'm keeping my 505. I just can't see exchanging a worse reading experience for a dictionary.

davidspitzer · 09-14-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by davidspitzer

http://gizmodo.com/5359122/sony-read...ny-compromises

the default turn page swipe as noted in the review is counter-intuitive for me - left to right (although may make sense due to its Japenese origin) It is easily changable though in the settings to change with a swipe from right to left which felt more like a page turn to me - I think th reviewer missed that you can change it

but i do agree with his assesment of the glare (Not withstanding unique definitions ala JSWolf)

doreenjoy · 09-14-2009, 08:03 PM

It's such a biased review...he bases the entire evaluation of the TE on the glare.

Crowl · 09-14-2009, 08:13 PM

Just as a matter of interest, but do many people on here actually read books the way he was describing, jumping around in them rather than reading them straight through? To me that just seems a weird way to read a book unless you were studying it or something.

While a lot of his points were at least partly fair, the overuse of the word kindle was extremely tiresome and the complaint about the lack of a memory card slot seems more than a little churlish when the included memory will be good for at least 500 books.

Crowl · 09-14-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by doreenjoy

It's such a biased review...he bases the entire evaluation of the TE on the glare.

It did come across as he wanted to write an unfavourable review, found a fault and then built his entire review round that fault.

herbdb · 09-14-2009, 08:16 PM

I have had my 700 for about a year and have never used the search function. This is not a research tool.

ifonline · 09-14-2009, 08:58 PM

I just returned a 600 and picked up the 300, and will be selling my practically brand new Kindle 2 within a week or so (when I find the time). The reason I returned the 600? Glare, and I couldn't read the thing while resting in bed. The screen was too dark and difficult to read even with all the lights on in the room. I had to put it down and pick up the Kindle just to finish reading my book.

So why did I get the 300? Because everything this reviewer said was wrong with the 300 is exactly what I wanted. I like to read my books from front to back. I don't flip back and forth and search for characters because I forgot them, as I tend to remember what I read. I love the size, and the screen is brilliant. The interface is simple yet intuitive.

I don't understand the desire to trash a reader because it doesn't have memory slots. I read a book, offload it, load another, and read some more. Maybe I'll load two or three (or a few more) on there to have a selection to span a few weeks. What I don't do is stockpile all of my already read books on my device. I have a computer with significantly more storage space where I can keep books for archives.

Anyway, I was immediately turned off of the "review" as soon as the reviewer said that the swipe-gesture was backwards. If he didn't bother to learn how to use the device, how in the heck can he properly review it? It was very clear that he just wanted to hate the Sony devices. Obviously they're not for everyone, but I suppose unbiased reviews are going the way of the dodo.

bsg75 · 09-14-2009, 09:31 PM

He made it pretty clear the touchscreen caused the glare, but he just isn't knowledgeable about what's out there right now. He fails to mention the Astak Pocket Pro (cheaper than the PRS-300 if you factor in the case), the PRS-700 (against which the 600 compares favorably, and the high price of the iRex. Sure Sony could have used a better touchscreen in the 600, but they're more expensive.

brecklundin · 09-14-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bsg75

He made it pretty clear the touchscreen caused the glare, but he just isn't knowledgeable about what's out there right now. He fails to mention the Astak Pocket Pro (cheaper than the PRS-300 if you factor in the case), the PRS-700 (against which the 600 compares favorably, and the high price of the iRex. Sure Sony could have used a better touchscreen in the 600, but they're more expensive.

Thing is...that is the same boat good old Jane and Joe User are floating around in along with the reviewer...

doreenjoy · 09-14-2009, 11:01 PM

I think he ignored the cost factor. At $199, the average Jane reader is going to overlook a lot of "issues" with the 300.

And I've never in my life read a book in a way that made me want to scroll ahead or back by many pages at a time. Was he even reading a book? Or just trying to find excuses to trash the device?

09-14-2009, 05:56 PM	#1
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09-14-2009, 06:07 PM	#2
LDBoblo Wizard Posts: 1,385 Karma: 16056 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asia Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Sony PRS-505	Seems reasonable...though the Kindle comparisons are a bit tiring...

09-14-2009, 06:08 PM	#3
Andybaby Wizard Posts: 1,279 Karma: 1002683 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Device: PRS-700	lots of bad information. its sad.

09-14-2009, 06:14 PM	#4
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	He doesn't emphasize clearly enough that the touch screen causes the glare. However, the touch screen is the biggest selling point for ithe 600. This is why I never read reviews of ebook devices, because it gets me all riled up.

09-14-2009, 06:36 PM	#6
advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	The CNET reviews gave the 300 a higher rating than the 600 as well. All the extra functionality aside, the two most important factors in E-readers are readability and library access. The reviewer refers to Sony library access as a positive. He just is very sensitive to the glare. Once anyone gets access to a decent library with ebooks I just can't understand picking a Kindle over a Sony. The glare issue is bound to cause some readers to vote against the Sony. There is no way around it. I'm keeping my 505. I just can't see exchanging a worse reading experience for a dictionary.

09-14-2009, 08:03 PM	#8
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	It's such a biased review...he bases the entire evaluation of the TE on the glare.

09-14-2009, 08:13 PM	#9
Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	Just as a matter of interest, but do many people on here actually read books the way he was describing, jumping around in them rather than reading them straight through? To me that just seems a weird way to read a book unless you were studying it or something. While a lot of his points were at least partly fair, the overuse of the word kindle was extremely tiresome and the complaint about the lack of a memory card slot seems more than a little churlish when the included memory will be good for at least 500 books.

09-14-2009, 08:16 PM	#11
herbdb Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony PRS-700	I have had my 700 for about a year and have never used the search function. This is not a research tool.

09-14-2009, 08:58 PM	#12
ifonline Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 26 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Braselton, GA Device: Kindle 3, iPad	I just returned a 600 and picked up the 300, and will be selling my practically brand new Kindle 2 within a week or so (when I find the time). The reason I returned the 600? Glare, and I couldn't read the thing while resting in bed. The screen was too dark and difficult to read even with all the lights on in the room. I had to put it down and pick up the Kindle just to finish reading my book. So why did I get the 300? Because everything this reviewer said was wrong with the 300 is exactly what I wanted. I like to read my books from front to back. I don't flip back and forth and search for characters because I forgot them, as I tend to remember what I read. I love the size, and the screen is brilliant. The interface is simple yet intuitive. I don't understand the desire to trash a reader because it doesn't have memory slots. I read a book, offload it, load another, and read some more. Maybe I'll load two or three (or a few more) on there to have a selection to span a few weeks. What I don't do is stockpile all of my already read books on my device. I have a computer with significantly more storage space where I can keep books for archives. Anyway, I was immediately turned off of the "review" as soon as the reviewer said that the swipe-gesture was backwards. If he didn't bother to learn how to use the device, how in the heck can he properly review it? It was very clear that he just wanted to hate the Sony devices. Obviously they're not for everyone, but I suppose unbiased reviews are going the way of the dodo.

09-14-2009, 09:31 PM	#13
bsg75 Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Kindle 2, PRS-600 (?)	He made it pretty clear the touchscreen caused the glare, but he just isn't knowledgeable about what's out there right now. He fails to mention the Astak Pocket Pro (cheaper than the PRS-300 if you factor in the case), the PRS-700 (against which the 600 compares favorably, and the high price of the iRex. Sure Sony could have used a better touchscreen in the 600, but they're more expensive.

09-14-2009, 11:01 PM	#15
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	I think he ignored the cost factor. At $199, the average Jane reader is going to overlook a lot of "issues" with the 300. And I've never in my life read a book in a way that made me want to scroll ahead or back by many pages at a time. Was he even reading a book? Or just trying to find excuses to trash the device?