Opus Opus and EPub (sorry wasn't sure if it should be here or on the Epub forum)

Loopy65 · 09-02-2009, 08:50 AM

Hi all

Question for those of you who know your stuff (most everyone other than me! lol)

On the fictionswise website is 'Secure Adobe' the same as Epub? .. in other words .. can I download the Secure Adobe format and read it on my new Opus (which is sposed to arrive today !!)

Thanks

(sorry if this is the wrong forum for this I just didn't know)
loopy

Vesper · 09-02-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loopy65

On the fictionswise website is 'Secure Adobe' the same as Epub? .. in other words .. can I download the Secure Adobe format and read it on my new Opus (which is sposed to arrive today !!)

I think it's an Adobe PDF , not ePub format

Drs

HarryT · 09-02-2009, 09:02 AM

It is; FW don't current sell DRM ePub. It will work on the Opus, but may not work very well, since the Opus doesn't appear to support reflow of PDFs.

AnemicOak · 09-02-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesper

I think it's an Adobe PDF , not ePub format

Drs

Correct. Fictionwise doesn't sell ePub, except in their DRM free Multiformat offerings.

JSWolf · 09-02-2009, 09:34 AM

What Fictionwise calls Digital Editions (incorrect) is PDF format.

AnemicOak · 09-02-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What Fictionwise calls Digital Editions (incorrect) is PDF format.

They don't call it that. They call PDF "Secure Adobe".

Loopy65 · 09-02-2009, 09:49 AM

thanks for the speedy replies! ..

yes, fictionwise call it secure adobe .. so secure adobe is PDF??? ... because there is this paragraph with the opus info : 'Books for the Cybook Opus are available in two formats: Adobe Digital Editions (PDF compatible with the Opus), Adobe ePub (optimized for Opus - recommended)

They (Bookeen) are refering to Books on Board but i know that fictionwise are cheaper and would rather get from there ..

Also not sure whether to switch over to the ePub route or two just convert a few things and once the mobipocket version is out to switch back to mobi .. but I like the page numbers! lol ..

The other reason for switching would be that the Adobe software is fine with a Mac whereas I have to do mobi using VMWare and do it thru windows ..

thanks everyone

loopy

AnemicOak · 09-02-2009, 10:03 AM

Yes, secure Adobe from FW is PDF. I guess I haven't found them to be any cheaper than BoB for the most part, plus BoB gets books sometimes weeks before FW. While PDF is compatible with the Opus I'm guessing it doesn't display all that well.

I'd try a few ePub's (grab some from here on MR) to see how you like the format and then decide. I'm pretty sure I'll be changing all of my Mobi files to ePub, but won't decide for sure until I get my Opus delivered and can play with it a bit.

Loopy65 · 09-02-2009, 10:06 AM

thanks Brian

so far I love the look/feel of the Opus .. very nice and easier to hold than the Gen 3 .. I do most of my reading in bed so the one handed and 'hold it any way you like' thing looks very promising ..

thanks for the advice

.. that will be my next project ..

loopy

Loopy65 · 09-02-2009, 06:39 PM

ok .. I downloaded one of the PDFs from here and it was horrible .. I've not tried PDFs on any reader before (I'm all for the novels!) so the 'zoom' instead of changing font size option was awful .. and even the 'fit to the page' didn't look 'right' somehow ..

Hubby (aka my geek hero!) has converted some of my mobipocket files to ePub and they're fine .. the only 'problem' is that the contents page seems to disappear for some reason! .. but that's not a big issue ..

So for now my decision is to change my mobipocket files to ePub and then hopefully once I've read them all the new firmware will be out

and then I can decide whether to stick with ePub or jump to mobipocket! ..

I have about 60 books to read so should keep me going for a while! lol ..

I really like the Opus tho .. I always thought my Gen 3 was easy to take places but this will go in my bag more easily and it feels not much heavier than my iPhone! (if at all!) ..

thanks again everyone for the help .. this is always the place I turn for e-book/e-reader questions ..

loopy

captaingeorges · 09-02-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loopy65

thanks for the speedy replies! ..

The other reason for switching would be that the Adobe software is fine with a Mac whereas I have to do mobi using VMWare and do it thru windows ..

thanks everyone

loopy

Hi Loopy!

I have a Mac, and I do not use Windows at all, and all my DRM Mobi have been Dedrm and converted to ePub for my own safekeeping, without going through VMware... I did it 100% Mac!!!

Regards,

Georges

JSWolf · 09-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

They don't call it that. They call PDF "Secure Adobe".

So they do. But still Fictionwise is incorrect. It should be Secure PDF as that's what it is. Secure Adobe could also be ePub. We know it's not because Fictionwise doesn't sell DRMed ePub and that's a shame. Once Sony starts to sell DRMed ePub with better prices, Fictionwise (I hope) will realize they need to as well.

Loopy65 · 09-03-2009, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaingeorges

Hi Loopy!

I have a Mac, and I do not use Windows at all, and all my DRM Mobi have been Dedrm and converted to ePub for my own safekeeping, without going through VMware... I did it 100% Mac!!!

Regards,

Georges

this is exactly the process we're doing at the moment

.. thanks!!
hubby did just find out that Calibre doesn't work with snow leopard tho so we'll switch them all and then throw snow leopard into the mix! ..

thanks Georges !

Loopy65 · 09-03-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

So they do. But still Fictionwise is incorrect. It should be Secure PDF as that's what it is. Secure Adobe could also be ePub. We know it's not because Fictionwise doesn't sell DRMed ePub and that's a shame. Once Sony starts to sell DRMed ePub with better prices, Fictionwise (I hope) will realize they need to as well.

Hi Jon
YES! .. hoping that Fictionwise realise it too! .. also think they need to change the name of their 'secure Adobe' as it's quite confusing! lol .. altho, admittedly, it doesn't take too much to confuse me!

loopy

HarryT · 09-03-2009, 05:02 AM

Have you tried reading the book on your Opus? How well does it display?

09-02-2009, 08:50 AM	#1
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	Opus and EPub (sorry wasn't sure if it should be here or on the Epub forum) Hi all Question for those of you who know your stuff (most everyone other than me! lol) On the fictionswise website is 'Secure Adobe' the same as Epub? .. in other words .. can I download the Secure Adobe format and read it on my new Opus (which is sposed to arrive today !!) Thanks (sorry if this is the wrong forum for this I just didn't know) loopy

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09-02-2009, 09:02 AM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It is; FW don't current sell DRM ePub. It will work on the Opus, but may not work very well, since the Opus doesn't appear to support reflow of PDFs.

09-02-2009, 09:34 AM	#5
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,247 Karma: 145488788 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What Fictionwise calls Digital Editions (incorrect) is PDF format.

09-02-2009, 09:49 AM	#7
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	thanks for the speedy replies! .. yes, fictionwise call it secure adobe .. so secure adobe is PDF??? ... because there is this paragraph with the opus info : 'Books for the Cybook Opus are available in two formats: Adobe Digital Editions (PDF compatible with the Opus), Adobe ePub (optimized for Opus - recommended) They (Bookeen) are refering to Books on Board but i know that fictionwise are cheaper and would rather get from there .. Also not sure whether to switch over to the ePub route or two just convert a few things and once the mobipocket version is out to switch back to mobi .. but I like the page numbers! lol .. The other reason for switching would be that the Adobe software is fine with a Mac whereas I have to do mobi using VMWare and do it thru windows .. thanks everyone loopy

09-02-2009, 10:03 AM	#8
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Yes, secure Adobe from FW is PDF. I guess I haven't found them to be any cheaper than BoB for the most part, plus BoB gets books sometimes weeks before FW. While PDF is compatible with the Opus I'm guessing it doesn't display all that well. I'd try a few ePub's (grab some from here on MR) to see how you like the format and then decide. I'm pretty sure I'll be changing all of my Mobi files to ePub, but won't decide for sure until I get my Opus delivered and can play with it a bit.

09-02-2009, 10:06 AM	#9
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	thanks Brian so far I love the look/feel of the Opus .. very nice and easier to hold than the Gen 3 .. I do most of my reading in bed so the one handed and 'hold it any way you like' thing looks very promising .. thanks for the advice .. that will be my next project .. loopy

09-02-2009, 06:39 PM	#10
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	ok .. I downloaded one of the PDFs from here and it was horrible .. I've not tried PDFs on any reader before (I'm all for the novels!) so the 'zoom' instead of changing font size option was awful .. and even the 'fit to the page' didn't look 'right' somehow .. Hubby (aka my geek hero!) has converted some of my mobipocket files to ePub and they're fine .. the only 'problem' is that the contents page seems to disappear for some reason! .. but that's not a big issue .. So for now my decision is to change my mobipocket files to ePub and then hopefully once I've read them all the new firmware will be out and then I can decide whether to stick with ePub or jump to mobipocket! .. I have about 60 books to read so should keep me going for a while! lol .. I really like the Opus tho .. I always thought my Gen 3 was easy to take places but this will go in my bag more easily and it feels not much heavier than my iPhone! (if at all!) .. thanks again everyone for the help .. this is always the place I turn for e-book/e-reader questions .. loopy

09-03-2009, 05:02 AM	#15
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Have you tried reading the book on your Opus? How well does it display?