Sony eBook Library (EBL) 3.0 links - Page 7

Abecedary · 08-25-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Teddman

Bottom line: The vast majority of preexisting ePubs are still going to display ragged right on the Sony readers.

Every single ePub that I've purchased (about 15 so far) has had the 'text-align: justify' attribute set. Of course, the 505 doesn't display it that way (which is fine with me). Maybe I'm just reading atypical books....

MerLock · 08-25-2009, 09:06 PM

Is it full justification with hyphenation or are the words spread out so that it's fully justified?

JSWolf · 08-25-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemurion

Always?

I have a number of left-justified LRF books - so I don't always see a ragged right as a sign of EPUB.

The only way to have LRF left justified instead of full justified is to hack the 505. And you cannot have left justified and full justified at the same time. It's one or the other.

Abecedary · 08-25-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerLock

Is it full justification with hyphenation or are the words spread out so that it's fully justified?

It alters the word-spacing to achieve full justification. And that's why I'm fine with ragged right.

bsandersen · 08-25-2009, 09:08 PM

I just downloaded the Macintosh version of the new software and installed it. The installer warned that installation would require a restart. When the install was done, Firefox came up, brought up this page http://ebookstore.sony.com/howitworks/ , and cancelled the restart. {sigh} I restarted anyway, just to be sure.

The Mac version looks much like the old PC version. I was able to do a "File->Import files..." to consume all of the previous books I'd purchased from the Sony store. That worked fine. I confess some small sense of relief that my investment in Sony books was no longer relegated to the VirtualPC world. (There's one less reason to start Windows on my MacBook Pro!)

I then connected the PRS-505. That also worked first time. So far, so good.

Purchasing a book was next. I selected "The Guns of August" (not available in the Kindle store, by the way), added it to my cart, and proceeded to checkout. Along the way I needed to add my credit card information. When I thought I had completed the transaction, the Sony client brought up an error screen with an obscure HTTP error and told me to contact customer service. Yikes. I backed out and tried to buy the book again. This time the store told me I had already purchased it. OK. That's good. It won't let me buy it twice.

I was then able to navigate to the eBook store --> my account --> My eBooks/books I own page and download the new book. It worked, but I should point out this is still a far cry from the smooth interface that Amazon provides. It doesn't pass the muster of "would my mother call me for technical support if this happened to her?" The answer is most certainly "yes".

Sony is back in play for me because (a) they came out with a Macintosh client (and, yes, I am a dedicated and happy Calibre user), (b) they have made an effort to harmonize their pricing model closer to that of other eBook retailers, especially Amazon, and (c) their continued efforts like EPUB, the new NY library thing, new models, and so on. They are trying. So, I won't give up on them.

That said, Sony still has some work to do. It should be fun to watch.

-- Scott

pilotbob · 08-25-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilHare

Rebooting now (I had rebooted once before..).
..
OK, rebooted. No difference.

Sorry April... I'm out of ideas. Other than rerunning the installer I would say give Sony support a call.

BOb

JSWolf · 08-25-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ronnn

I've just downloaded an epub file from the google library into the sony ebook library, from there to my prs-505 ... and nothing has changed : the text is not justified on the right, page number in the right margin and "strange" page numbering in the "status bar".

this is a big disappointment

The ePub has to be made to specify full justify. Check the CSS.

pilotbob · 08-25-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The ePub has to be made to specify full justify. Check the CSS.

I don't see why you would expect to see something different with the 505... the 505 has not changed. Unless they push out an update for it, only the 300/600 will have the new Adobe Mobile viewer that supports full justifications.

BOb

JSWolf · 08-25-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddman

Yes, ePub does not allow for user-configurable justification. (as configured with Adobe Digital Editions). However the file was set up, that's how it will display... As long as the device supports the formatting.

ePub does allow for being left justified or full justified. The settings are in the CSS.

Teddman · 08-25-2009, 09:20 PM

As configured with Adobe Digital Editions.

MerLock · 08-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The ePub has to be made to specify full justify. Check the CSS.

I checked the CSS on one of ePub books and I see

".aboutTypeText {
display: block;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
text-align: left;
text-align: justify;
text-indent: 0%;
}"

Does that mean it's left justified? Anyway to change it to full justification for a non DRMed ePub?

Nate the great · 08-25-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddman

Yes, ePub does not allow for user-configurable justification. (as configured with Adobe Digital Editions). However the file was set up, that's how it will display... As long as the device supports the formatting.

There's nothing in the Epub spec that forbids user-configurable settings. It's just that none of the reading software can do it.

lilac_jive · 08-25-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

There's nothing in the Epub spec that forbids user-configurable settings. It's just that none of the reading software can do it.

I have to say, I'll cry if my books aren't fully justified.

JSWolf · 08-25-2009, 09:28 PM

eBook Library 3.0 does support full justification with ePub if the ePub specifies to be full justified.

thechansen · 08-25-2009, 09:33 PM

As someone has mentioned earlier, pricing has gotten MUCH better in the Sony store. It's really starting to come together, slowly, but I think Sony is really dedicated to making this a long running venture. Now for the Mac software: It runs rather poorly on my 2.2ghz c2d with 4 gb of ram. I basically wouldn't want to use it for anything other than access to the store which is nice because, the 505 acts as a mass storage device, and the availablity of Calibre. It's forward progress all the same.

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08-25-2009, 09:06 PM	#92
MerLock Evangelist Posts: 411 Karma: 1034889 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	Is it full justification with hyphenation or are the words spread out so that it's fully justified?

08-25-2009, 09:08 PM	#95
bsandersen Nerd Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Acton, MA Device: Sony PRS-300,505, Kindle 2, iPad	I just downloaded the Macintosh version of the new software and installed it. The installer warned that installation would require a restart. When the install was done, Firefox came up, brought up this page http://ebookstore.sony.com/howitworks/ , and cancelled the restart. {sigh} I restarted anyway, just to be sure. The Mac version looks much like the old PC version. I was able to do a "File->Import files..." to consume all of the previous books I'd purchased from the Sony store. That worked fine. I confess some small sense of relief that my investment in Sony books was no longer relegated to the VirtualPC world. (There's one less reason to start Windows on my MacBook Pro!) I then connected the PRS-505. That also worked first time. So far, so good. Purchasing a book was next. I selected "The Guns of August" (not available in the Kindle store, by the way), added it to my cart, and proceeded to checkout. Along the way I needed to add my credit card information. When I thought I had completed the transaction, the Sony client brought up an error screen with an obscure HTTP error and told me to contact customer service. Yikes. I backed out and tried to buy the book again. This time the store told me I had already purchased it. OK. That's good. It won't let me buy it twice. I was then able to navigate to the eBook store --> my account --> My eBooks/books I own page and download the new book. It worked, but I should point out this is still a far cry from the smooth interface that Amazon provides. It doesn't pass the muster of "would my mother call me for technical support if this happened to her?" The answer is most certainly "yes". Sony is back in play for me because (a) they came out with a Macintosh client (and, yes, I am a dedicated and happy Calibre user), (b) they have made an effort to harmonize their pricing model closer to that of other eBook retailers, especially Amazon, and (c) their continued efforts like EPUB, the new NY library thing, new models, and so on. They are trying. So, I won't give up on them. That said, Sony still has some work to do. It should be fun to watch. -- Scott

08-25-2009, 09:20 PM	#100
Teddman Addict Posts: 242 Karma: 695 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505	As configured with Adobe Digital Editions.

08-25-2009, 09:28 PM	#104
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,575 Karma: 145863177 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	eBook Library 3.0 does support full justification with ePub if the ePub specifies to be full justified.

08-25-2009, 09:33 PM	#105
thechansen Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS-505	As someone has mentioned earlier, pricing has gotten MUCH better in the Sony store. It's really starting to come together, slowly, but I think Sony is really dedicated to making this a long running venture. Now for the Mac software: It runs rather poorly on my 2.2ghz c2d with 4 gb of ram. I basically wouldn't want to use it for anything other than access to the store which is nice because, the 505 acts as a mass storage device, and the availablity of Calibre. It's forward progress all the same.