Seriousness ok, semi serious, 'cause I know youse guys!... car advice? - Page 3

badgoodDeb · 08-25-2009, 07:42 PM

A MINI Cooper has a surprising amount of room in the back, when the seats are down. Dog might not quite be able to stand up, but certainly has room to lay. My first MINI was only $19K second hand (half a year old).

lilac_jive · 08-25-2009, 07:49 PM

RWood mentioned the Element. They actually have a dog edition! It has some extra goodies for dog owners.

krisk · 08-27-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

A MINI Cooper has a surprising amount of room in the back, when the seats are down. Dog might not quite be able to stand up, but certainly has room to lay. My first MINI was only $19K second hand (half a year old).

criminy! the dog is almost as big as a mini!

krisk · 08-27-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilac_jive

RWood mentioned the Element. They actually have a dog edition! It has some extra goodies for dog owners.

element is really out of the price range (and goofy looking)

Sweetpea · 08-27-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

A MINI Cooper has a surprising amount of room in the back, when the seats are down. Dog might not quite be able to stand up, but certainly has room to lay. My first MINI was only $19K second hand (half a year old).

A mini could even fit into my car... I have a collegue who has an extended mini cooper and that's shorter than my small toyota...

pshrynk · 08-27-2009, 03:33 PM

if you want a real Jeep, then you're pretty much limited to the Grand Cherokee, Cherokke, or Wrangler. The Patriot et al are Chrysler products with braning badges stuck to them. I have a Wrangler Unlimited, which i love. Four doors. Moose llike accommodations in the back seat. Real 4WD. You can get it in standard. Mileage doesn't suck. Since you Rescue Dog it, I would suggest the Rubicon style, since it's trail rated from the git go.

krisk · 08-27-2009, 04:37 PM

is standard transmission standard?

pshrynk · 08-27-2009, 04:45 PM

Well, they charge for auto on new ones...

krisk · 08-27-2009, 05:01 PM

and the Patriot is really a wannabe?

pshrynk · 08-27-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by krisk

and the Patriot is really a wannabe?

Is the Patriot the really big one? If so, not so much. It comes Trail Rated in all its packages.

krisk · 08-27-2009, 05:23 PM

I'll hunt down a piccie

krisk · 08-27-2009, 05:30 PM

this is a nice review, and the price is GREAT!

The 2009 Jeep Patriot ranks 21 out of 25 Affordable Compact SUVs. This ranking is based on our analysis of 45 published reviews and test drives of the Jeep Patriot, and our analysis of reliability and safety data.

The Patriot is most appealing for its affordability and good off-road capabilities. However, it still can't match the quality interiors and backseat comfort of rivals -- although an interior redesign for 2009 should help matters.

The Patriot is a good value since it functions as both a daily driver and competent off-road SUV. Plus, auto writers love its boxy styling, which is reminiscent of the retired Jeep Cherokee. "Compared to the mechanically similar Jeep Compass, Patriot feels more like an authentic Jeep," says Consumer Guide. "Compass and Patriot lack the on-road polish and cabin refinement of other vehicles in this class, but Patriot compensates somewhat with impressive available off-road capability."

pshrynk · 08-27-2009, 05:34 PM

Okay, that's the Junior Jeep that actually is the replacement of the Cherokee. (Which is not the same as the Grand Cherokee)... You gotta watch that one. If there isn't a "Trail Rated" badge, then you're getting a soccersuv and would not be pleased with the performance in the areas you're likely to be doing rescues in...

krisk · 08-27-2009, 05:35 PM

no, It's got high off road ratings

here's a review by someone who apparently loves to hate to love them or something, it's just down your ally... he's very.... conflicted

pshrynk · 08-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Jeep lovers are a strange lot. We want rugged enough to drop out of a plane and then whine because it's spartan, then turn around and revel in the idea that you can clean up with a garden hose, then bitch about the low power engine, then delight in the grind them up gearing. And so on...

The Compass is one that you need to stay away from. The Liberty is really a soccersuv. But the Patriot is really a Jeep. With all the attendant love/hate baggage.

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krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	no, It's got high off road ratings here's a review by someone who apparently loves to hate to love them or something, it's just down your ally... he's very.... conflicted Last edited by krisk; 08-27-2009 at 05:42 PM.

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badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,547 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	A MINI Cooper has a surprising amount of room in the back, when the seats are down. Dog might not quite be able to stand up, but certainly has room to lay. My first MINI was only $19K second hand (half a year old).

08-25-2009, 07:49 PM	#32
lilac_jive Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,870 Karma: 27376 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Device: PRS-505	RWood mentioned the Element. They actually have a dog edition! It has some extra goodies for dog owners.

08-27-2009, 03:33 PM	#36
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	if you want a real Jeep, then you're pretty much limited to the Grand Cherokee, Cherokke, or Wrangler. The Patriot et al are Chrysler products with braning badges stuck to them. I have a Wrangler Unlimited, which i love. Four doors. Moose llike accommodations in the back seat. Real 4WD. You can get it in standard. Mileage doesn't suck. Since you Rescue Dog it, I would suggest the Rubicon style, since it's trail rated from the git go.

08-27-2009, 04:37 PM	#37
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	is standard transmission standard?

08-27-2009, 04:45 PM	#38
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Well, they charge for auto on new ones...

08-27-2009, 05:01 PM	#39
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	and the Patriot is really a wannabe?

08-27-2009, 05:30 PM	#42
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	this is a nice review, and the price is GREAT! The 2009 Jeep Patriot ranks 21 out of 25 Affordable Compact SUVs. This ranking is based on our analysis of 45 published reviews and test drives of the Jeep Patriot, and our analysis of reliability and safety data. The Patriot is most appealing for its affordability and good off-road capabilities. However, it still can't match the quality interiors and backseat comfort of rivals -- although an interior redesign for 2009 should help matters. The Patriot is a good value since it functions as both a daily driver and competent off-road SUV. Plus, auto writers love its boxy styling, which is reminiscent of the retired Jeep Cherokee. "Compared to the mechanically similar Jeep Compass, Patriot feels more like an authentic Jeep," says Consumer Guide. "Compass and Patriot lack the on-road polish and cabin refinement of other vehicles in this class, but Patriot compensates somewhat with impressive available off-road capability."

08-27-2009, 05:34 PM	#43
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Okay, that's the Junior Jeep that actually is the replacement of the Cherokee. (Which is not the same as the Grand Cherokee)... You gotta watch that one. If there isn't a "Trail Rated" badge, then you're getting a soccersuv and would not be pleased with the performance in the areas you're likely to be doing rescues in...

08-27-2009, 09:40 PM	#45
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Jeep lovers are a strange lot. We want rugged enough to drop out of a plane and then whine because it's spartan, then turn around and revel in the idea that you can clean up with a garden hose, then bitch about the low power engine, then delight in the grind them up gearing. And so on... The Compass is one that you need to stay away from. The Liberty is really a soccersuv. But the Patriot is really a Jeep. With all the attendant love/hate baggage.