08-08-2009, 06:30 PM | #16 | |
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08-08-2009, 07:06 PM | #17 |
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08-08-2009, 07:13 PM | #18 |
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The problem might be, that once our non-technical J. Does run into problems with DRM-ed files, at least some of them will blame it on "these stupid e-books" and go back to p-books, at least for a while.
And the rest will discover DRM stripping, and "piracy." Not unlike the publishers refusals to publish certain popular titles, which often lead to: --"damn, I got me a new Kindle, but I can't find any Harry Potter to buy...." --"oh, no problem. My nephew showed me this new site where you could get it...." I think the publishing industry would love to kill this whole e-book thing, except that they can't.... But, I suppose the e-book thing might kill some of the more obtuse publishers. |
08-08-2009, 07:35 PM | #19 |
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Another problem ist that Joe Average might put the blame on "those eBooks" and stick to books (or may not read, after all). He might not even know about DRM or make the right conclusions to really understand what DRM does to his legally acquired files.
DRM doesn't only restrict customer's rights but also constrains eBooks in general as a cultural/technological development. I've been (co)publishing our eBooks for over six years without any DRM and never encountered any serious matter of pirated copies, so I can just encourage every publisher to give his/her readers some credit. What really bugs me is that epub isn't really "free" at the moment. Any commercially sold epub eBook with DRM is at last an Adobe ADE-DRM-epub, so it is as far away from the open standard it is supposed to be as I could think of. So, the current devices work with "Adobe epub". What about some years in the future? Will ADE still be around? Is there another kind of DRM-epub from another company, and of course, those two then are not compatible? As long as any eBook file is restricted/bound with DRM, the user is never free to use it as he or she wishes to. So - goodbye DRM-prc, welcome DRM-epub ... |
08-09-2009, 12:20 AM | #20 | |
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Support became medicore, main page rarely updated, compaines making e-ink devices starting to opt for adobe epub. things are surely heading towards mobipocket's demise. |
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08-09-2009, 03:20 AM | #21 | |
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But what if in 1-2 years time someone (maybe Steve Jobs??) invents a beautiful new ebook format, that renders ePub obsolete? Will Adobe allow us to read our drm-ed ePub ebooks on some Apple iTablet? History might just repeat itself... |
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08-09-2009, 04:29 AM | #22 |
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Just do not pay for anything with DRM and demand money back if you receive a file made defective with DRM.
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DRM in itself isn't evil. It's the current implementation of it. I don't just buy a book at this time, I buy a book in a specific format. So, if I get a reader that doesn't support that format, I can't read the book. Why not allow a reader to download that same book in a different format too (just like the multiformat books at Fictionwise)? |
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08-09-2009, 04:42 AM | #24 |
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08-09-2009, 04:52 AM | #25 | |
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Xenophon has posted about this subject several times, and to the best of my recollection has a legal background. If I remember his comments correctly even the lawyers hold wildly different opinions. So the opinion that it is perfectly legal to remove DRM is just as valid as the opinion that it is illegal to do so. Regards, Alex |
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08-09-2009, 06:16 AM | #27 |
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Amazon is trying to dictate the direction the development of e-books in general take - by dictating whether or not I can add Epub-support on my reader.. disgusting. Basically they are saying: hey, you've bought Mobipocket ebooks, we own mobipocket - so you've got one choice: stop reading your books, or get a Kindle.
Well, Kindle my ass... even if it were the last device on Earth and all paper books were torched - I'd rather tell stories to myself than get a Kindle. Epub is the future.. but there is only one type of Epub and that is without DRM. There are no specifications for DRM'd Epub, and that results in a company like Adobe making up their own version. Of course, it won't be long before someone else makes up their own, propietary version of DRM'd Epub, thus ruining the entire idea behind Epub. Show me how to strip the DRM off my Mobi-files, and I'll never buy an Amazon book again. |
08-09-2009, 06:58 AM | #28 | |
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No DRM is the future, like in the music industry. We want to pay for ebooks but be able to use what we bought on any device we like. Is this so absurd?? Meanwhile, we love cabbages. Thanks again As opposed to Amazon, Adobe (as Microsoft in the past when lit format was circumvented) has at least not complained so far about deDRM scripts. |
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08-09-2009, 07:31 AM | #29 | |
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08-09-2009, 07:37 AM | #30 | |
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I routinely remove DRM from all Mobipocket files before I install them on my Cybook. Regards, Alex |
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