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Old 08-04-2009, 09:08 PM   #1771
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:11 PM   #1772
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Urgh - sounds like a nightmare!

One of the best things about working in an IT dept is that most IT staff don't take that sort of thing seriously

I'm usually the one asking the awkward questions on courses - things like "but what if the person you're trying to use this technique on also knows about it?"
Then she is going to address you in the perfect, adapted way to suit your needs and help you develop your qualities in the rich environment provided to you by our wonderful, client focused company.

Everyone is "happy" and our minds get set in plastic.

Do I sound like I'm holding a grudge?
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:12 PM   #1773
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Physically yes, mentally: never!
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:29 PM   #1774
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Then she is going to address you in the perfect, adapted way to suit your needs and help you develop your qualities in the rich environment provided to you by our wonderful, client focused company.

Everyone is "happy" and our minds get set in plastic.

Do I sound like I'm holding a grudge?
Was this a company or a cult you were working for???
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:39 PM   #1775
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Was this a company or a cult you were working for???
Sigh, a company! It drained me and spit me out because I refused to conform (to be honest, I tried, that's what killed me). That's why I worked in a grocery after, it was ... a well deserved break (that is: until it turned ugly).

As a kid, did you ever work for McDonald's? It was my first job ever (a whole year of greasy Cat) and the particular restaurant I worked at was really strict on company policies. The training involved watching videos on how to salt the fries: you had to pour the salt over the fry bin with a M motion. I tried a W once and got a warning! We also had to smile constantly, even in the break room! Not that I don't smile a lot, I do, put this was just extreme! I had a few warnings about that too...

Corporation spirit kills me, I tell you, and I seem to find that a lot in my life!
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:12 AM   #1776
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:23 AM   #1777
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:28 AM   #1778
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:49 AM   #1779
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:00 AM   #1780
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Sigh, a company! It drained me and spit me out because I refused to conform (to be honest, I tried, that's what killed me). That's why I worked in a grocery after, it was ... a well deserved break (that is: until it turned ugly).
Thankfully, I've never worked anywhere that's been too fussed by my general inclination to view conformity as optional at best. I'm not overtly non-conformist, which probably also helps, but my general view has always been that if it hinders me doing my job effectively then it gets ignored.

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That's... utterly daft!

I only ever worked in supermarkets as a kid (and a photo library, but that wasn't exactly legit ) and thankfully none of them were that obsessed! I think you've just explained why McDs fries are (or were, it's been years since I ate in one), so oversalted.

Mind you, I did once get told that a vanilla-scented perfume was inappropriate in a supermarket (This from a manager who was drenched in something like Poison...)
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:10 AM   #1781
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It took me much longer than that to understand what where I work does! And that's with them giving staff a booklet so they could explain what the company did! (With things like "what you might say if you are asked in the pub")
i had a job in a place where i could have used a booklet like that. i still don't know what they did ! (i only worked there a few weeks, it was a temp job).

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Those corporate environments can really get to you. A couple years ago I was a supervisor in a call center that collected data to do tv and radio ratings. They had us follow training after training in new personnel management techniques, where we would have to categorize each of your team mates according to fixed criterias, and then only address them with the vocabulary suggested for their "type" of personality. I couldn't deal with it, even more considering they changed the official cie method at least twice a year!
All of this to say: I like fixed, basic and traditional titles and work environments, so I need to understand what I do, and why I do it.
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Urgh - sounds like a nightmare!
that's putting it mildly !!!

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I'm usually the one asking the awkward questions on courses - things like "but what if the person you're trying to use this technique on also knows about it?"
i see we are psychic twins.

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Thankfully, I've never worked anywhere that's been too fussed by my general inclination to view conformity as optional at best. I'm not overtly non-conformist, which probably also helps, but my general view has always been that if it hinders me doing my job effectively then it gets ignored.
i'm not agressively non-conformist (i mean i don't go out of my way to show it just on principle) but i don't make any effort to hide it either. i also have a real problem with authority (i like to question it... and i have a hard time with rigid hierarchies where someone is supposed to be "above" me), and i consider that respect should be earned and can be lost if you don't continue to deserve it. you can imagine how things went for me in corporate-land. (it's part of why now i work freelance ! )

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Mind you, I did once get told that a vanilla-scented perfume was inappropriate in a supermarket (This from a manager who was drenched in something like Poison...)
seems like vanilla is more appropriate than poison anywhere food is involved !
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I'm reading all this and I feel so proud of you lot, we're a family of anticonformists.

Why do you think I chose this name? It is a clear sign that if forced I will melt the mold in whatever situation I'll be backed up.

Is this why there are no fights in the lounge, that we know instinctively where not to step, that there are buttons not to depress?
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Not to depress, so that means buttons to press...

I like to press the "quote" button!
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