Report on new firmware? - Page 23

delphidb96 · 08-03-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Thom

But, again, remember, my enduring fellow, they didn't write which August ...

Good point!

Godzil · 08-03-2009, 07:12 PM

Nor which century

Soc-psychologist · 08-04-2009, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzil

Nor which century

--Michael

K-Thom · 08-04-2009, 05:33 AM

So it's this pivotal question after all ...

What comes first? The end of the world or the firmware update from Bookeen?

Hmm, that's a tough one.

EowynCarter · 08-04-2009, 06:04 AM

Anyway, i hope the update comes soon. I need ePub on my gen 3 !

lmarie · 08-04-2009, 06:17 PM

I've not been paying very close attention lately (sort of gave up a while ago on Bookeen firmware updates) but I'm assuming that there has not been an update (for the rest of us) since the group got together in France? I hope somebody will post a thread with a very clear title (something along the lines of "Miracle happens!!! ...."

) so that those of us who just skim thread titles will be sure to pick it up.

I'm NOT unhappy with my Cybook (works fine for me) but I too would be very hesitant to buy again from Bookeen after so much negative press here about their customer service and communication issues.

gerraldo · 08-04-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmarie

I'm NOT unhappy with my Cybook (works fine for me) but I too would be very hesitant to buy again from Bookeen after so much negative press here about their customer service and communication issues.

You're right, there has not been a release of the update (though promised) since the french meetup.

It should be noted, that if your Cybook needs a repair Bookeens seems to do a good & quick job (lots of people have said so) and this is a very important part of customer service. Communications and keeping promises is quite another matter...

Saud · 08-05-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Thom

So it's this pivotal question after all ...

What comes first? The end of the world or the firmware update from Bookeen?

Hmm, that's a tough one.

2012 is closer

K-Thom · 08-05-2009, 06:03 AM

You mean, the firmware update will be provided by Mesoamerican programmers?!?

Oh me, oh my, we are doomed!

T_Frain_K · 08-05-2009, 09:25 AM

I thought it was the Mayan world´s end this time?

Oh, how I love those apocalyptical nonsense

Last good one I know of was May 5th, 2000

marcinJ13 · 08-05-2009, 10:38 AM

Does anyone know what to expect from ePub firmware? ePub readers (software) available so far have some problems. I have tested some of them and I found following issues:

First one is that few of them don't display non-English characters (I'm Polish, so characters like "ążńśćłó" are quite important for me).

Second one is hyphenation. While the eInk displays have paper-like look, lot of texts don't look even close to what you can see in books. Not having automatic hyphenation causes different line color (average gray based on characters and white spaces). While I can put soft hyphens automatically in most of the documents I have, I was not able to find reader that actually uses them correctly.

Most of you probably don't care about it, but there are languages with average words much longer than English ones. English average word is 5.1 characters. But for example Finnish is 7.7. (Comparison list is available at http://blogamundo.net/lab/wordlengths/).

Also there are people who like to use bigger font sizes. Having either soft hyphens correctly rendered or some auto hyphenation mechanism is quite important.

I'm waiting for new firmware with anticipation, but also I'm quite prepared for huge disappointment.

Regards

MJ

Godzil · 08-05-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcinJ13

First one is that few of them don't display non-English characters (I'm Polish, so characters like "ążńśćłó" are quite important for me).

As far as I know the Mobi cybook support them, and the ePub should support it too...

Quote:

Second one is hyphenation. While the eInk displays have paper-like look, lot of texts don't look even close to what you can see in books. Not having automatic hyphenation causes different line color (average gray based on characters and white spaces).

???????????????????????

What the link between hyphens and grays?

May you want to speak about justification?

Jellby · 08-05-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzil

What the link between hyphens and grays?

In typography, the gray level or colour is, so to speak, the apparent colour of a page (or portion of a page) when viewed from far away (or with your eyes almost closed). It's related to how thick the letters are, how spaced out the words and lines are, etc. One of the aims of good typography is getting a uniform grey level across the page, which means that the letters and words should not appear condensed in some parts and spread out in other parts.

The lack of good hyphenation prevents finding good linebreaks, which results in some lines being too spread out and the grey level not being uniform, and that's poor typography.

Godzil · 08-05-2009, 12:32 PM

Ok you speak about the typographic gray. ("gris typographique" in french or "grauwert" in german, but I can't found a real translation in english, maybe only "gray"?)

[troll]If you really want good hyphenation & justification, you should use only TeX/LaTeX[/troll]

Krystian Galaj · 08-06-2009, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzil

As far as I know the Mobi cybook support them, and the ePub should support it too...

Mobi cybook doesn't support them in either TXT or HTML. It only supports them in Mobi files. That's one of the things I bought Cybook for 2 years ago, and I'm still waiting for a bugfix.

08-05-2009, 06:03 AM	#339
K-Thom The one and only Posts: 3,302 Karma: 535819 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: yup!	You mean, the firmware update will be provided by Mesoamerican programmers?!? Oh me, oh my, we are doomed! Last edited by K-Thom; 08-05-2009 at 10:47 AM.

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08-03-2009, 07:12 PM	#332
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	Nor which century

08-04-2009, 05:33 AM	#334
K-Thom The one and only Posts: 3,302 Karma: 535819 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: yup!	So it's this pivotal question after all ... What comes first? The end of the world or the firmware update from Bookeen? Hmm, that's a tough one.

08-04-2009, 06:04 AM	#335
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,337 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Anyway, i hope the update comes soon. I need ePub on my gen 3 !

08-04-2009, 06:17 PM	#336
lmarie Dilettante Posts: 153 Karma: 500 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Philadelphia area Device: EB1150, Cybook Gen3, Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo, Kobo Clara BW	I've not been paying very close attention lately (sort of gave up a while ago on Bookeen firmware updates) but I'm assuming that there has not been an update (for the rest of us) since the group got together in France? I hope somebody will post a thread with a very clear title (something along the lines of "Miracle happens!!! ...." ) so that those of us who just skim thread titles will be sure to pick it up. I'm NOT unhappy with my Cybook (works fine for me) but I too would be very hesitant to buy again from Bookeen after so much negative press here about their customer service and communication issues.

08-05-2009, 09:25 AM	#340
T_Frain_K Booyah! Posts: 673 Karma: 1753 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austria Device: Cybook Gen3 // Samsung Galaxy S	I thought it was the Mayan world´s end this time? Oh, how I love those apocalyptical nonsense Last good one I know of was May 5th, 2000

08-05-2009, 10:38 AM	#341
marcinJ13 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 288 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Cybook Gen3	Does anyone know what to expect from ePub firmware? ePub readers (software) available so far have some problems. I have tested some of them and I found following issues: First one is that few of them don't display non-English characters (I'm Polish, so characters like "ążńśćłó" are quite important for me). Second one is hyphenation. While the eInk displays have paper-like look, lot of texts don't look even close to what you can see in books. Not having automatic hyphenation causes different line color (average gray based on characters and white spaces). While I can put soft hyphens automatically in most of the documents I have, I was not able to find reader that actually uses them correctly. Most of you probably don't care about it, but there are languages with average words much longer than English ones. English average word is 5.1 characters. But for example Finnish is 7.7. (Comparison list is available at http://blogamundo.net/lab/wordlengths/). Also there are people who like to use bigger font sizes. Having either soft hyphens correctly rendered or some auto hyphenation mechanism is quite important. I'm waiting for new firmware with anticipation, but also I'm quite prepared for huge disappointment. Regards MJ

08-05-2009, 12:32 PM	#344
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	Ok you speak about the typographic gray. ("gris typographique" in french or "grauwert" in german, but I can't found a real translation in english, maybe only "gray"?) [troll]If you really want good hyphenation & justification, you should use only TeX/LaTeX[/troll]