New Sony model to be called PRS-300 and PRS-600 - Page 19

kazbates · 08-02-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Light covers are available as accessories for both models, I assume similar to those for the PRS-505.

To be honest, I like just using a clip-on light. I don't use the light that much, so I wouldn't want to add weight to the cover and the reader.

By the way WDE, they wouldn't let me get an extended warranty at the Sony Style store. They said it had to be within 90 days of the purchase of my reader (which was a Christmas gift). Oh, well. Maybe I'll have to ask for the 600 and give my 700 to my husband.

oncdoc · 08-02-2009, 09:52 AM

you guys all forget another advantage to the 600

pdf support.. something u gotta pay amazon 500 dollars or so to get in the DX. and it sucked imho.

how good will this pdf support be?

also is the processor faster on the 600. I find the 505 to be slow in changing pages. all in all... looks good. I want one today.

right now I have the kindle 2 which is most satisfying but I love throwing money away on gadgets. cheers mates and happy reading from a newbie.

oncdoc · 08-02-2009, 09:57 AM

also are u sure prs 600 has a touch screen? I dont see that on the description.

oncdoc · 08-02-2009, 09:59 AM

never mind i see it. first sentence duh...

wallcraft · 08-02-2009, 10:00 AM

It is clear that the PRS-300 is a PRS-505 follow-on with a slightly smaller screen, and no removable media. For example it has 3 font sizes.

The PRS-600, on the other hand, appears to be an improved version of the PRS-700 with no side-light. In addition to all the improvements over the PRS-505 in the PRS-700 (including touch screen and 5 font sizes), it adds

Freehand highlighting and annotation
Built-in Oxford American English eDictionary

Both still have 8 greyscales, which surprised me.

The big remaining question is how good is the PRS-600's screen? In other words, how much of the PRS-700's fuzzyness was due to the sidelights.

JSWolf · 08-02-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komugi

PRS 600 and PRS 300 available for preorder @ jr.com

http://www.jr.com/brand/sony/n/71891/

300 @ 199.99
600 @ 299.99

Quote:

Built-in Oxford American English eDictionary

That is from the description of the 600. So maybe it will have dictionary lookup. That would be neat and if so for ePub, goodbye Mobipocket for sure.

vivaldirules · 08-02-2009, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Just to make it one click easier to see the specs.

Sony PRS300-SC Reader Pocket Edition - Silver (Also in pink)

Pink?!?! (doggie nearly faints)

Man, the world really is coming to an end, isn't it?

lilac_jive · 08-02-2009, 10:22 AM

I think it's time for me to do the I WAS TOTALLY RIGHT dance!!!!!

You know you guys are getting excited now

If it's true about the dicitionary lookup, that was a good way to toss an upgrade in without increasing prices.

I'm super excited about this. Here we all are thinking Amazon's going to dominate the market and Sony's left trying to catch up (making a DX sized model) when in reality they were going for something completely different.

Moejoe · 08-02-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

Pink?!?! (doggie nearly faints)

Man, the world really is coming to an end, isn't it?

My sister will buy one now if they're in pink (she has a thing for pink, no idea why)

kazbates · 08-02-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilac_jive

I think it's time for me to do the I WAS TOTALLY RIGHT dance!!!!!

You know you guys are getting excited now

If it's true about the dicitionary lookup, that was a good way to toss an upgrade in without increasing prices.

I'm super excited about this. Here we all are thinking Amazon's going to dominate the market and Sony's left trying to catch up (making a DX sized model) when in reality they were going for something completely different.

Some people just have to say, "I told you so!!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moejoe

My sister will buy one now if they're in pink (she has a thing for pink, no idea why)

So do I and so would I.

spirit_wolf · 08-02-2009, 10:33 AM

Some k to komugi for finding the 300/600 J&R preorder page and igorsk for reporting the manuals.

Hope they get some pictures soon. The 600 specs look good. I purchased (and still love) the 505 over the 700. If I jump to a 600, freehand notes/annotations, dictionary support and additional memory would be the primary motivations.

I'm not craving touch screen per se other than for the virtual keyboard and freehand notes, but touch screen navigation seems like something that might grow on me after while. BTW, I'm also in the don't-really-need-wireless camp. But I can understand some being attracted to Kindle Whispernet if they need quick/anywhere access to periodicals, book club recommendations or bestsellers--which I don't.

Of the course the 600 display has to be at least as clear and sharp as the 505 or Sony has wasted a lot of time and money.

Most of all, on behalf of blue PRS 505 owners, I must say it's a tremendous mistake if Sony discontinues blue! Maybe go with a true navy, or grayish blue instead of the purplish blue, but don't eliminate the bestest, smartest, most evolvdest color in the world! And don't try to tell me it wasn't selling as well as red.

Nate the great · 08-02-2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oncdoc

you guys all forget another advantage to the 600

pdf support.. something u gotta pay amazon 500 dollars or so to get in the DX. and it sucked imho.

how good will this pdf support be?

Like the 505 and 700, the 600 will probably also Adobe Mobile 9 for the reading software.

JSWolf · 08-02-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbates

As long as they get that darn Sync to work properly!

Sync does work as long as you use it manually. Auto-sync is a piece of shite.

Oh, Why Not? · 08-02-2009, 11:14 AM

See Accessories for covers (extra $) various colors and one with a light.

wallcraft · 08-02-2009, 11:22 AM

The details of the dictionary support is not known yet, but it already seems to be only on the PRS-600. There are actually two "Oxford American" dictionaries for sale in the MOBI format: New Oxford American Dictionary for $60 and Concise Oxford American Dictionary for $19.95. The Kindle's all have the New Oxford American Dictionary, with over 250,000 entries and definitions. Probably the PRS-600 will have this version too (the Concise has 180,000 entries and definitions).

The price is one reason why this is probably missing from the PRS-300, although the lack of a touchscreen could be another. Obviously, Sony and Amazon are not paying $60 per device but they are paying something for the dictionary. I also doubt the PRS-700 will get a dictionary, based on the cost to Sony of adding this.

On the Kindles it is possible to add 3rd party dictionaries, but this has proven to be much more difficult than on other MOBI-based devices. I wonder if this will be possible at all on the Sony. Note that one issue will be DRM. Oxford University Press may be ok with providing a DRM-free dictionary if it is built into the firmware, but if so this will make commercial alternatives very unlikely.

Presumably, the dictionary will be different in each market.

08-02-2009, 10:00 AM	#275
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	It is clear that the PRS-300 is a PRS-505 follow-on with a slightly smaller screen, and no removable media. For example it has 3 font sizes. The PRS-600, on the other hand, appears to be an improved version of the PRS-700 with no side-light. In addition to all the improvements over the PRS-505 in the PRS-700 (including touch screen and 5 font sizes), it adds Freehand highlighting and annotation Built-in Oxford American English eDictionary Both still have 8 greyscales, which surprised me. The big remaining question is how good is the PRS-600's screen? In other words, how much of the PRS-700's fuzzyness was due to the sidelights.

08-02-2009, 10:33 AM	#281
spirit_wolf _^^~ Posts: 53 Karma: 63 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 3rd stone f/t Sun Device: iPad 2, PRS-505, PRS-600	Some k to komugi for finding the 300/600 J&R preorder page and igorsk for reporting the manuals. Hope they get some pictures soon. The 600 specs look good. I purchased (and still love) the 505 over the 700. If I jump to a 600, freehand notes/annotations, dictionary support and additional memory would be the primary motivations. I'm not craving touch screen per se other than for the virtual keyboard and freehand notes, but touch screen navigation seems like something that might grow on me after while. BTW, I'm also in the don't-really-need-wireless camp. But I can understand some being attracted to Kindle Whispernet if they need quick/anywhere access to periodicals, book club recommendations or bestsellers--which I don't. Of the course the 600 display has to be at least as clear and sharp as the 505 or Sony has wasted a lot of time and money. Most of all, on behalf of blue PRS 505 owners, I must say it's a tremendous mistake if Sony discontinues blue! Maybe go with a true navy, or grayish blue instead of the purplish blue, but don't eliminate the bestest, smartest, most evolvdest color in the world! And don't try to tell me it wasn't selling as well as red. Last edited by spirit_wolf; 08-02-2009 at 11:07 AM. Reason: forgot to mention igorsk

08-02-2009, 11:22 AM	#285
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	The details of the dictionary support is not known yet, but it already seems to be only on the PRS-600. There are actually two "Oxford American" dictionaries for sale in the MOBI format: New Oxford American Dictionary for $60 and Concise Oxford American Dictionary for $19.95. The Kindle's all have the New Oxford American Dictionary, with over 250,000 entries and definitions. Probably the PRS-600 will have this version too (the Concise has 180,000 entries and definitions). The price is one reason why this is probably missing from the PRS-300, although the lack of a touchscreen could be another. Obviously, Sony and Amazon are not paying $60 per device but they are paying something for the dictionary. I also doubt the PRS-700 will get a dictionary, based on the cost to Sony of adding this. On the Kindles it is possible to add 3rd party dictionaries, but this has proven to be much more difficult than on other MOBI-based devices. I wonder if this will be possible at all on the Sony. Note that one issue will be DRM. Oxford University Press may be ok with providing a DRM-free dictionary if it is built into the firmware, but if so this will make commercial alternatives very unlikely. Presumably, the dictionary will be different in each market. Last edited by wallcraft; 08-02-2009 at 11:24 AM.

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08-02-2009, 09:52 AM	#272
oncdoc Addict Posts: 299 Karma: 300 Join Date: May 2009 Device: kindle, pocket pro	you guys all forget another advantage to the 600 pdf support.. something u gotta pay amazon 500 dollars or so to get in the DX. and it sucked imho. how good will this pdf support be? also is the processor faster on the 600. I find the 505 to be slow in changing pages. all in all... looks good. I want one today. right now I have the kindle 2 which is most satisfying but I love throwing money away on gadgets. cheers mates and happy reading from a newbie.

08-02-2009, 09:57 AM	#273
oncdoc Addict Posts: 299 Karma: 300 Join Date: May 2009 Device: kindle, pocket pro	also are u sure prs 600 has a touch screen? I dont see that on the description.

08-02-2009, 09:59 AM	#274
oncdoc Addict Posts: 299 Karma: 300 Join Date: May 2009 Device: kindle, pocket pro	never mind i see it. first sentence duh...

08-02-2009, 10:22 AM	#278
lilac_jive Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,870 Karma: 27376 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Device: PRS-505	I think it's time for me to do the I WAS TOTALLY RIGHT dance!!!!! You know you guys are getting excited now If it's true about the dicitionary lookup, that was a good way to toss an upgrade in without increasing prices. I'm super excited about this. Here we all are thinking Amazon's going to dominate the market and Sony's left trying to catch up (making a DX sized model) when in reality they were going for something completely different.

08-02-2009, 11:14 AM	#284
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