Flight and the Kindle DX - Page 2

HarryT · 07-21-2009, 07:27 AM

Sorry - why did they all have to fly at least once? Could they not have come from China by sea?

drzeller · 07-21-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ratflinger

Where do you hide on the plane? They always ask me to switch off, course I usually sit on the aisle. If I'm where the FA can't see me I switch on as soon as we roll onto the runway, since at that time the FAs can't get up either.

What happened to turning off all electronic devices? While I truly doubt your actions would take the plane down, or any of the myriad cell phones that are left on, I don't want you to make the decision for me when we are on the same plane.

Perhaps you could enjoy the onboard magazine or Skymall for the few minutes or half hour you're likely to be taxiing?

D.

pilotbob · 07-21-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Sorry - why did they all have to fly at least once? Could they not have come from China by sea?

If you got it delivered via FedEx or USPS/UPS Air it flew.

BOb

JSWolf · 07-21-2009, 11:43 AM

I've taken my 505 on a trip to Scotland and not a single issue at all. That was roughly an 8 hour flight.

Daithi · 07-21-2009, 12:02 PM

I'll just add to the chorus. I take my Kindle of flights all the time and have never had an issue.

Sydney's Mom · 07-21-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by drzeller

What happened to turning off all electronic devices? While I truly doubt your actions would take the plane down, or any of the myriad cell phones that are left on, I don't want you to make the decision for me when we are on the same plane.

Perhaps you could enjoy the onboard magazine or Skymall for the few minutes or half hour you're likely to be taxiing?

D.

My husband is a pilot (he has a commercial license but doesn't fly commercially) and he says all that turning off electrical devices is bunk. We send emails and talk on the phone as long as we can when we fly with him.

HarryT · 07-21-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

My husband is a pilot (he has a commercial license but doesn't fly commercially) and he says all that turning off electrical devices is bunk.

Not entirely true - for mobile phones, especially. The way that a mobile phone works is that, if it finds that it hasn't got a signal, it increases the power of its radio transmitter until it either finds one, or it hits maximum power. That's why, if you go to an area without mobile coverage, your phone will drain its battery in no time flat. Imagine a 747 with 500 mobile phones, all transmitting at maximum power to find a network signal. That truly could cause havoc with the aircraft's electronic systems

tompe · 07-21-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drzeller

What happened to turning off all electronic devices?

The rule nowadays seems to be to turn off all devices with an off switch. So the problem with book readers seems to the that they have an off switch...

yankgirl · 07-22-2009, 10:15 AM

I have a questions about the x-rays. When you go through security, do you have to take it out of your bag (like laptops)? This is my first time traveling with my K2 and do not want to take any chances with the cranky TSA at Newark airport

jswinden · 07-22-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Not entirely true - for mobile phones, especially. The way that a mobile phone works is that, if it finds that it hasn't got a signal, it increases the power of its radio transmitter until it either finds one, or it hits maximum power. That's why, if you go to an area without mobile coverage, your phone will drain its battery in no time flat. Imagine a 747 with 500 mobile phones, all transmitting at maximum power to find a network signal. That truly could cause havoc with the aircraft's electronic systems

Maximum power for a cellular phone is about 1/2 watt (500 milliwatts). That is nothing, especially at 800MHz through 2GHz. Commercial aircraft wiring and electronic equipment is too well shielded to show any effect from even dozens of cellular phones transmitting at the same time. And since the commercial aircraft VHF band radios are so much lower in frequency at around 130Mhz, and their long range HF radios are even lower in frequency (usually below 10MHz), there is no chance that the high frequency, low powered cellular phones will cause communication errors.

HarryT · 07-22-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Maximum power for a cellular phone is about 1/2 watt (500 milliwatts). That is nothing, especially at 800MHz through 2GHz. Commercial aircraft wiring and electronic equipment is too well shielded to show any effect from even dozens of cellular phones transmitting at the same time. And since the commercial aircraft VHF band radios are so much lower in frequency at around 130Mhz, and their long range HF radios are even lower in frequency (usually below 10MHz), there is no chance that the high frequency, low powered cellular phones will cause communication errors.

The perceived risk is to things like GPS receivers, apparently. I know that they are not "safety critical", but they are still important navigational instruments.

Acextreme · 07-22-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yankgirl

I have a questions about the x-rays. When you go through security, do you have to take it out of your bag (like laptops)? This is my first time traveling with my K2 and do not want to take any chances with the cranky TSA at Newark airport

Oh yes, that reminds me, does the X-Rays or metal detector, or whatever other equipments they use for security, have any effect on electronic devices such as a laptop? And what about the Kindle? Anyone put theirs through those and are there any adverse effects?

HarryT · 07-22-2009, 12:42 PM

No effect whatsoever. The low energy X-rays used at airports don't effect flash memory such as the Kindle uses.

pshrynk · 07-22-2009, 05:50 PM

I leave the Kindle in my computer bag.

goodellboy · 07-22-2009, 07:41 PM

When a flight attendant saw me turning off my K2, he told me that I could keep my Kindle on during takeoff and landing. He confirmed, "It's just running on a battery, right -- no celltower connection?" He also remembered what everybody's bags looked like in the overhead compartments, got them down and handed them out to the right passengers when we landed. Best flight attendant ever.

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07-21-2009, 07:27 AM	#16
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Sorry - why did they all have to fly at least once? Could they not have come from China by sea?

07-21-2009, 11:43 AM	#19
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,762 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've taken my 505 on a trip to Scotland and not a single issue at all. That was roughly an 8 hour flight.

07-21-2009, 12:02 PM	#20
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	I'll just add to the chorus. I take my Kindle of flights all the time and have never had an issue.

07-22-2009, 10:15 AM	#24
yankgirl Connoisseur Posts: 72 Karma: 50 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NJ Device: iPhone, iPad 2, PPP(purple pocket pro) Nook Tablet, K4 & Kindle Fire!	I have a questions about the x-rays. When you go through security, do you have to take it out of your bag (like laptops)? This is my first time traveling with my K2 and do not want to take any chances with the cranky TSA at Newark airport

07-22-2009, 12:42 PM	#28
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No effect whatsoever. The low energy X-rays used at airports don't effect flash memory such as the Kindle uses.

07-22-2009, 05:50 PM	#29
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I leave the Kindle in my computer bag.

07-22-2009, 07:41 PM	#30
goodellboy Member Posts: 20 Karma: 284 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle DX	When a flight attendant saw me turning off my K2, he told me that I could keep my Kindle on during takeoff and landing. He confirmed, "It's just running on a battery, right -- no celltower connection?" He also remembered what everybody's bags looked like in the overhead compartments, got them down and handed them out to the right passengers when we landed. Best flight attendant ever.

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