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Old 07-06-2009, 01:59 PM   #46
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Yes, Torchwood is excellent. Did you listen to the three radio plays of Torchwood last week? All were pretty good, I thought. You can hear them on the "Listen Again" service if you missed them.
And here's a case where us US residents are punished! We can't get any of the BBC online content over the Internet. For that matter, I can't view any video from one of my favorite CBC series, Little Mosque on the Prairie. I think I need some in-country proxies to get around those geographical restrictions. After all, lots of folks on MobileRead have figured out how to get around Amazon, Fictionwise, or BooksOnBoard!
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:29 PM   #47
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What I really want to know is when are you going to let us see 'The Legend of the Seeker'..

You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:38 PM   #48
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These were my favorite 1 hour shows that had a plot and character development last season.

- Sarah Conner Chronicles (sadly canceled now)
- Chuck (amazed it's not canceled)
- Supernatural (amazed it's not canceled)
- True Blood
- Firefly (okay I watch it about once a year...so it almost counts. Still tragically canceled)
- Stargate Atlantis (canceled)
- Merlin (please don't americanize this show...)
- Lost in Austen (BBC mini-series)


I download all my tv...so I really have to thank the guys in the UK who are encoding the Doctor Who and other BBC dramas. I'm able to recommend tv shows to my mom so when they finally get over here she can watch them.
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You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.
ditto. actually I guess I missed it the first time around and am now getting it in re-runs. it strikes me as a storyline and cameraman given free rein at an SCA gathering. really. it does no justice to the guy (forgot his name) that wrote the original story. fantasy is grand, but this stuff... makes Xena look like Shakespeare.

and new on the American Dr. Who/Torchwood front!!!! new (to us episodes of both the weekend of 25 July!
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:44 PM   #50
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I download all my tv...so I really have to thank the guys in the UK who are encoding the Doctor Who and other BBC dramas. I'm able to recommend tv shows to my mom so when they finally get over here she can watch them.
Is this a private arrangement? Or do you get them from some public site?
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #51
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And here's a case where us US residents are punished! We can't get any of the BBC online content over the Internet.
That's because they are funded by the TV licence fee (every household in the UK has to pay a licence fee of about US$250 per year, which funds the BBC), and hence only licence fee payers - people in the UK - are eligible to download them.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:58 AM   #52
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Is this a private arrangement? Or do you get them from some public site?
There are usenet newsgroups, bit torrent sites, etc, to which people post BBC TV and Radio programmes. They are, needless to say, illegal.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:06 AM   #53
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Yes, Torchwood is excellent. Did you listen to the three radio plays of Torchwood last week? All were pretty good, I thought. You can hear them on the "Listen Again" service if you missed them.
Thanks for the pointer, Harry. I'd completely missed that. And good 'ole BBC makes them available (at least in the UK) as MP3s for download. Perfect!
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That's because they are funded by the TV licence fee (every household in the UK has to pay a licence fee of about US$250 per year, which funds the BBC), and hence only licence fee payers - people in the UK - are eligible to download them.
Harry, is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?

I will say this, I have always been a little bummed that I can't watch BBC online content here in Canada. However, I never knew you where paying so much for it. I knew BBC is like our CBC and is publicly funded I just didn't know how much per household it was. I don't even know what it works out to here in Canada for the CBC.

At least we do have BBC Canada as poor a line up as they do run at least it's something. (And 1-2 years behind to boot)

Thanks for the info Harry. And I guess the wife and I have fallen behind on the Dr. Who front. We haven't kept up with it in a few years now. It's hard to stay current with Dr. Who and not break any laws over here. All well.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:50 AM   #55
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Harry, is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?
It'a totally separate payment that has to be paid to a company contracted by the BBC to collect the money. If you want satellite or cable you have to pay for them in addition to the TV license.

If you buy a TV you generally have to give your details to the store so that they can inform the licensing people to check up on you.
They also check randomly on any addresses that aren't licensed to make sure you don't own a TV, and they have the power to enter and search premises (I think they need 'grounds to belive there is an unlicensed set on the premises', but lack of a license seems to be suitable grounds), and a generally very rude and obnoxious, refusing to belive there are people out there who could possibly have no wish to own a TV. (I do have a TV, but I have a few friends who are continually harrassed by them).

http://www.marmalade.net/lime/ is an interesting site about it!
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:55 AM   #56
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is that fee incorporated into your cable/satellite or is it part of your property tax or income tax? Or is it some other way I have yet to conceive?

It is actually a separate fee you pay for a license - every TV that is sold by any store must be reported to the licensing authority so that they can see if a license for the sales address. There is a bit more info at the TV Licensing website. They are reasonable though. I called them and explained I had no cable/satellite service, and no other way to receive a broadcast and they said ok - you don't need a license even though you have a tv (mine is hooked up to a dvd player and a media streamer). They did say they were going to send someone around to check my setup but they have not done so yet.

oops, sorry Harry for jumping in there.

Edit: Just read iain_benson's post above. I think the key is to ensure they mark your address as not needing a license in their database. They have, this year, updated their guidence on when you need a TV license and made it a lot clearer : http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp - Using this I explained I sometimes used BBC iPlayer and they said - thats ok it doesn't count unless you watch simultaneous live broadcasts on your computer - I don't so I was ok.

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I wonder how they classify computer monitors? Mine also has tv input, but it has not antenna or cableconnection attached.
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If you use a computer to watch on the internet while the program is simultaneously being broadcast you need a license in the UK.

Based on your computer monitor you wouldn't though, unless you watch a broadcast like the BBC live internet stream services. A license covers an address as well, so only one license regardless of the number of TVs and other recieving equipment you have.
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You really don't want to see this show. I tried to watch the first episode and it was BAD!

I love sci-fi and fantasy but this was not the way to go, you're better off reading the book Wizard's First Rule.
Ok, guess I'm odd or something... I watched the first episiode and loved it. Haven't gotten around to seeing any more though so maybe it got drastically worse?
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iain_benson and Pev both of you thanks for the clarification. That whole system seems so "alien" to me. I have always wanted to visit the UK. I even have family over there. It is #1 on my places to visit list. We, the wife and I, always joke about moving there. Just packing up shop and moving to England. Never seriously as of yet but it is my aspiration to go to Cordon Blue in Paris, and then work in France and England before coming home one day to open a restaurant. Big dream though. Who knows what will happen. And wow have I gotten off topic.

Again thanks for the info. Learned something new today.
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