Fonts

Aprilbeginnings · 12-12-2006, 11:43 AM

I know I mentioned this somewhere but only slightly but I am curious about the fonts...... I redid a few books into .rft format and ended up doing it a couple of times to find the correct font size for me...... 18 with Arial and Courier new seem to work good enough size wise in the reader, but my question is this.

Is there a place where it is listed what fonts will show up in the reader? I know Courier will because I have a few and it's definetly not arial...... anybody know what else works, or care to share what they have that does, maybe we could get a listing going, or does Sony have this listed somewhere.

Thanks..... I am not trying to make life difficult, honest <G> But I am a font person and sometimes Arial is just too boring. I know Georgia is a nice one when you are reading books...... I could play around but I don't want to start doing too much of that on this thing, something might happen that is not good, LMAO, suspcious me.......

igorsk · 12-12-2006, 11:46 AM

The same fonts as on the device:
C:\Program Files\Sony\CONNECT Reader\Data\fonts
If you want anything else, use PDF with embedded fonts.

igorsk · 12-12-2006, 11:47 AM

Here's how RTF font families are mapped to the device fonts:
<family name="roman" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/>
<family name="swiss" uses="Swis721 BT"/>
<family name="modern" uses="Courier10 BT"/>
<family name="script" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/>
<family name="decor" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/>
<family name="tech" uses="Courier10 BT"/>

RWood · 12-12-2006, 12:58 PM

Or for those who do not study fonts --

All of the the fonts are from Bitstream thus the BT at the end of the name. Dutch is their name for for a Times (Times New Roamn) Serif font and Swiss is their name for an Ariel (or Helvetica) San Serif font. Both are varispacing fonts where the "W" is wider than the 'i'. Courier is a copy of the typewriter serif font and is monospaced where every character has the same width.

Bob Russell · 12-12-2006, 01:38 PM

It's funny how people are so divided about what font they like. I like the Times New Roman (by that I mean "Dutch801 Rm BT", which it is mapped to, of course).

And a lot of people prefer sans serif which moves one back to Arial equivalent.

But I don't think I've heard of anyone that wants to use Courier for the main book reading font! Seems most appropriate for literal strings in a computing tech book!

Aprilbeginnings · 12-12-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igorsk

The same fonts as on the device:
C:\Program Files\Sony\CONNECT Reader\Data\fonts
If you want anything else, use PDF with embedded fonts.

I never saw this before....... thank you.
Mine shows three of them.

Hey Bob, I didn't say I liked Courier, just that I see I can use it <G> ALTHOUGH, I did'n't think it looked bad for reading.... maybe it's my eyes and the glasses

So what would happen if I copied and pasted a few fonts in that font folder, anybody know?

And Igorsk I don't understand what you mean about the PDF thing but I will say this, PDF is just tooooooooo small for me that I won't bother with any pdf file at all.....

Thanks all for the responses..... if nobody knows about adding a font in the font folder I may be bold enough to just try and see what happens <G> I am sure it will not BREAK it <giggle> although that would be my luck............

Aprilbeginnings · 12-12-2006, 02:29 PM

Just did an experiment with the fonts, copied a very distinct font to that folder typo upright bt.......... It didn't do anything so I answered my own question as far as that goes.

NatCh · 12-12-2006, 03:39 PM

igorsk had a long thread that discussed adding fonts, but it's definitely a heavily 'techie' approach. I'm hoping for an executable that would take care of those gritty details for me.

Aprilbeginnings · 12-12-2006, 03:44 PM

Sadlly I don't see all the discussions on this board plus other places that I do reside...

Oh I did save the file in that typo font thing too, I didn't just add the font to sony's font folder...

I am techie to some extent but this font thing sounds too *techie* to me....... but I would be willing to look for it... Or if someone is kind to share the link if this discussion is close by..

NatCh · 12-12-2006, 04:13 PM

here's the starting point:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8051

Aprilbeginnings · 12-12-2006, 05:04 PM

Oh thanks........ yep that is too Techie for me......... )(*^%*&(()*(*&)(*)(* argggggggggg.... LOL....... guess I will stick with what is here.

SoCal Bob · 12-12-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aprilbeginnings

And Igorsk I don't understand what you mean about the PDF thing but I will say this, PDF is just tooooooooo small for me that I won't bother with any pdf file at all.....
............

If you create a PDF that is formated on a page that fits the Sony Reader and adjust the font to your preference you can achieve a very readable document in any font you choose. How does this article, from The Economist look to you on your Reader?

ojleblanc · 12-12-2006, 07:59 PM

SoCal Bob, I know you didn't direct your question to me, but I read the document anyway. First, the font looks great (though a little large); which is it?

Second, the article is an interesting read. How did you generate it? Did you print it from the Economist website, then edit the font in Adobe Acrobat?

Aprilbeginnings · 12-13-2006, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal Bob

If you create a PDF that is formated on a page that fits the Sony Reader and adjust the font to your preference you can achieve a very readable document in any font you choose. How does this article, from The Economist look to you on your Reader?

It looks good Bob...... I guess I have see how to use adobe since I am really not a fan of that program. I guess what I need now is a set of good instructions on how to reformat an already existing .pdf article..... I just loaded something up and I don't see where you would do this unless you need the paid version of adobe and of which in that case I don't have.

Sorry if I am being a PITA. ;(

HarryT · 12-13-2006, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aprilbeginnings

I just loaded something up and I don't see where you would do this unless you need the paid version of adobe and of which in that case I don't have.

I'm afraid that you can indeed only create PDF files using the commercial "Adobe Acrobat" program, not the free Acrobat Reader.

There are a number of free or low-cost PDF creation tools around, but I don't know whether or not these have the ability to embed fonts. Anyone else know?

12-12-2006, 11:43 AM	#1
Aprilbeginnings Guru Posts: 632 Karma: 404 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern CA Device: Sony PRS-500 /prs 650 soon	Fonts I know I mentioned this somewhere but only slightly but I am curious about the fonts...... I redid a few books into .rft format and ended up doing it a couple of times to find the correct font size for me...... 18 with Arial and Courier new seem to work good enough size wise in the reader, but my question is this. Is there a place where it is listed what fonts will show up in the reader? I know Courier will because I have a few and it's definetly not arial...... anybody know what else works, or care to share what they have that does, maybe we could get a listing going, or does Sony have this listed somewhere. Thanks..... I am not trying to make life difficult, honest <G> But I am a font person and sometimes Arial is just too boring. I know Georgia is a nice one when you are reading books...... I could play around but I don't want to start doing too much of that on this thing, something might happen that is not good, LMAO, suspcious me.......

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12-12-2006, 11:46 AM	#2
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	The same fonts as on the device: C:\Program Files\Sony\CONNECT Reader\Data\fonts If you want anything else, use PDF with embedded fonts.

12-12-2006, 11:47 AM	#3
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Here's how RTF font families are mapped to the device fonts: <family name="roman" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/> <family name="swiss" uses="Swis721 BT"/> <family name="modern" uses="Courier10 BT"/> <family name="script" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/> <family name="decor" uses="Dutch801 Rm BT"/> <family name="tech" uses="Courier10 BT"/>

12-12-2006, 12:58 PM	#4
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Or for those who do not study fonts -- All of the the fonts are from Bitstream thus the BT at the end of the name. Dutch is their name for for a Times (Times New Roamn) Serif font and Swiss is their name for an Ariel (or Helvetica) San Serif font. Both are varispacing fonts where the "W" is wider than the 'i'. Courier is a copy of the typewriter serif font and is monospaced where every character has the same width.

12-12-2006, 01:38 PM	#5
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	It's funny how people are so divided about what font they like. I like the Times New Roman (by that I mean "Dutch801 Rm BT", which it is mapped to, of course). And a lot of people prefer sans serif which moves one back to Arial equivalent. But I don't think I've heard of anyone that wants to use Courier for the main book reading font! Seems most appropriate for literal strings in a computing tech book!

12-12-2006, 02:29 PM	#7
Aprilbeginnings Guru Posts: 632 Karma: 404 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern CA Device: Sony PRS-500 /prs 650 soon	Just did an experiment with the fonts, copied a very distinct font to that folder typo upright bt.......... It didn't do anything so I answered my own question as far as that goes.

12-12-2006, 03:39 PM	#8
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	igorsk had a long thread that discussed adding fonts, but it's definitely a heavily 'techie' approach. I'm hoping for an executable that would take care of those gritty details for me.

12-12-2006, 03:44 PM	#9
Aprilbeginnings Guru Posts: 632 Karma: 404 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern CA Device: Sony PRS-500 /prs 650 soon	Sadlly I don't see all the discussions on this board plus other places that I do reside... Oh I did save the file in that typo font thing too, I didn't just add the font to sony's font folder... I am techie to some extent but this font thing sounds too techie to me....... but I would be willing to look for it... Or if someone is kind to share the link if this discussion is close by..

12-12-2006, 04:13 PM	#10
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	here's the starting point: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8051

12-12-2006, 05:04 PM	#11
Aprilbeginnings Guru Posts: 632 Karma: 404 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern CA Device: Sony PRS-500 /prs 650 soon	Oh thanks........ yep that is too Techie for me......... )(^%&(()(&)()( argggggggggg.... LOL....... guess I will stick with what is here.

12-12-2006, 07:59 PM	#13
ojleblanc Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: iPhone/Sony Reader	SoCal Bob, I know you didn't direct your question to me, but I read the document anyway. First, the font looks great (though a little large); which is it? Second, the article is an interesting read. How did you generate it? Did you print it from the Economist website, then edit the font in Adobe Acrobat?