Oh no, not vegetarians/vegans... - Page 2

carld · 06-29-2009, 11:18 AM

The only time I've ever been offended by a meat eater at a meal was when a friend ordered hot wings, and after finishing two of them he set the bones on the edge of the salad plate I was eating out of. Why, I don't know. but ewwww.

My reaction wasn't nice.

GeoffC · 06-29-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by carld

The only time I've ever been offended by a meat eater at a meal was when a friend ordered hot wings, and after finishing two of them he set the bones on the edge of the salad plate I was eating out of. Why, I don't know. but ewwww.

My reaction wasn't nice.

that's why they give you forks .....

DixieGal · 06-29-2009, 11:24 AM

Ewww is right! That is revolting! Bad manners are bad manners, no matter what you choose to eat.

Ceili · 06-29-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

Ewww is right! That is revolting! Bad manners are bad manners, no matter what you choose to eat.

Amen, that's more than gross

krisk · 06-29-2009, 12:55 PM

it would be a lot easier giving advice on this if we knew the situation. work? family? date? holiday?

Angst · 06-29-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilHare

The non-'veg' is made sit at the 'veg' and special diet table (through no fault of his own; special diet category applies).
Suddenly he is under assault for his meat-eating ways. The verbal assault is on in earnest; a friendly meal is turned into a decidedly unfriendly debate about the rights of animals, the amount of materials used to feed animals and how disgusting one is to eat meat.

Save me from the horror!
How do I deal with this dining nightmare next time??
What ammunition should I bring to the table to defend myself against the verbal 'veg' barrage?

Find common ground. Environmentalism should work. Then point out that cows are one of the primary producers of methane, (a global warming gas), and point out that you are just doing your part to help reduce the problem.

Remember all those BBQs with foreign dignitaries that Bush held on his ranch? Who knew Bush was such a rabid environmentalist!

Elfwreck · 06-29-2009, 01:11 PM

Point out how many thousands of animals--rodents, insects, birds--are killed to support agriculture. (Those, of course, don't count. Most of them aren't cute or friendly, so nobody cares how many gophers die for their salad.)

Monocultures of plants are incredibly dangerous to the environment; the Kansas Dust Bowl wasn't caused by sheep farming.

Being able to have a healthy diet without meat is a matter of environment and, to some extent, wealth; healthy vegetarianism is pretty much impossible with plants native to most of Scandanavia. Even in the areas where the climate & ground will grow enough protein-bearing plants to support humans, having access to those year-round is not universal; it takes a lot more effort to supply a family with enough soy & nuts to cover all its needs, than to deal with seasonal changes in harvest by having the occasional chicken soup.

Animal protein is available year-round; plant protein is available either in season, or through wealth. It's very, umm, classist, to insist that vegetarianism is more moral than eating meat.

Sparrow · 06-29-2009, 02:04 PM

Also, going veggie is a good way to stop biting your nails.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 06-29-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilHare

How do I deal with this dining nightmare next time??
What ammunition should I bring to the table to defend myself against the verbal 'veg' barrage?

Go to whoever arranged the dining setup, tell them that "special needs" and "vegan" spaces do not mix, and demand they be separated... right now. If they refuse, ignore the rules and sit wherever you want. Life's too short.

krisk · 06-29-2009, 02:37 PM

well since we still don't know the situation, here's a sure fire cure... wear your blood stained hunting togs. runs the vegans out of the house every time!

Ceili · 06-29-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

Also, going veggie is a good way to stop biting your nails.

Really? That never helped me

krisk · 06-29-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceili

Really? That never helped me

I think she was being sarcastic

DTM · 06-29-2009, 07:19 PM

Sitting next to a vegetarian at a wedding some years ago.

She asked, "So, how's the carcass?"

Without even looking up I replied, "Great! It has that 'took a long time and suffered' flavor!"

That ended that. (Actually, we were both joking and both got a good laugh out of the exchange. But I'm saving that in case I ever need it for real.)

But my standard response to vegetarians who claim moral superiority is to point out that Jesus Christ was not a vegetarian, but Charles Manson is. I've only used that a couple of times, but the look you get is priceless.

Ceili · 06-29-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by krisk

I think she was being sarcastic

Ahh, I thought I'd somehow missed a benefit!

I never liked meat, so I never ate it. My 30's rolled around and a boyfriend ate chicken and steak all the time... I tried it (after making sure it was beyond dead... and yes, that means well, well, well, well, well done) liked some, so I've been eating that.

And, LA and In and Out was the best.... the one place I found that I could just say, well done 5 and not have to go into the shoe leather/hockey puck detail

desertgrandma · 06-29-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM

Sitting next to a vegetarian at a wedding some years ago.

She asked, "So, how's the carcass?"

Without even looking up I replied, "Great! It has that 'took a long time and suffered' flavor!"

That ended that. (Actually, we were both joking and both got a good laugh out of the exchange. But I'm saving that in case I ever need it for real.)

But my standard response to vegetarians who claim moral superiority is to point out that Jesus Christ was not a vegetarian, but Charles Manson is. I've only used that a couple of times, but the look you get is priceless.

priceless. Loved it....

06-29-2009, 11:18 AM	#16
carld Wizard Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	The only time I've ever been offended by a meat eater at a meal was when a friend ordered hot wings, and after finishing two of them he set the bones on the edge of the salad plate I was eating out of. Why, I don't know. but ewwww. My reaction wasn't nice.

06-29-2009, 11:24 AM	#18
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	Ewww is right! That is revolting! Bad manners are bad manners, no matter what you choose to eat.

06-29-2009, 12:55 PM	#20
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	it would be a lot easier giving advice on this if we knew the situation. work? family? date? holiday?

06-29-2009, 01:11 PM	#22
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,187 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	Point out how many thousands of animals--rodents, insects, birds--are killed to support agriculture. (Those, of course, don't count. Most of them aren't cute or friendly, so nobody cares how many gophers die for their salad.) Monocultures of plants are incredibly dangerous to the environment; the Kansas Dust Bowl wasn't caused by sheep farming. Being able to have a healthy diet without meat is a matter of environment and, to some extent, wealth; healthy vegetarianism is pretty much impossible with plants native to most of Scandanavia. Even in the areas where the climate & ground will grow enough protein-bearing plants to support humans, having access to those year-round is not universal; it takes a lot more effort to supply a family with enough soy & nuts to cover all its needs, than to deal with seasonal changes in harvest by having the occasional chicken soup. Animal protein is available year-round; plant protein is available either in season, or through wealth. It's very, umm, classist, to insist that vegetarianism is more moral than eating meat.

06-29-2009, 02:04 PM	#23
Sparrow Wizard Posts: 4,395 Karma: 1358132 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	Also, going veggie is a good way to stop biting your nails.

06-29-2009, 02:37 PM	#25
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	well since we still don't know the situation, here's a sure fire cure... wear your blood stained hunting togs. runs the vegans out of the house every time!

06-29-2009, 07:19 PM	#28
DTM Intentionally Left Blank Posts: 172 Karma: 300106 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA Device: Nook STR	Sitting next to a vegetarian at a wedding some years ago. She asked, "So, how's the carcass?" Without even looking up I replied, "Great! It has that 'took a long time and suffered' flavor!" That ended that. (Actually, we were both joking and both got a good laugh out of the exchange. But I'm saving that in case I ever need it for real.) But my standard response to vegetarians who claim moral superiority is to point out that Jesus Christ was not a vegetarian, but Charles Manson is. I've only used that a couple of times, but the look you get is priceless.