Vegetarian? - Page 23

etherspin · 06-28-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Who are you?

Plants react to attacks and destruction of their bodies. They will have more stress hormones in their bodies, they will increase defenses and they will release pheromone-like substances to warn other plants nearby of what is happening. All very much like pain and screaming in humans and animals.

So if you're vegetarian because of conscience, you might want to consider skipping on plants as well

hormones promote/instigate and chemical responses physical responses but arent indicative of a brain, central nervous system to perceive pain or another form of consciousness ,sentience or self awareness .
mutation that allows signalling to other plants with the same genetic material is beneficial from an evolutionary standpoint but i dont see any reason to believe a plant is conscious of anything.

your points are very interesting however, all these complex mechanisms in plants are fascinating.

HarryT · 06-28-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

There are pleasant tasting alternatives for bacon, sausages, meat etc (soya-based); The only problems we have is with making decent Yorkshire Puddings to go with roasted vegetables - the substitute egg doesn't work correctly - but pancakes are a whizz ...... !!!!!

Arrrggghhh! Life without Yorkshire Pudding is not worth living!

montsnmags · 06-28-2009, 07:38 AM

My sister gave us a pumpkin the other day (she can't get rid of the things - even after she ripped the entire plant out, it all came back). Tomorrow I'm making a pumpkin and potato curry, slow-cooked, that looked really nice in the recipe book, though I'll be making a few substitutes (as I tend to do) if I can't be bothered walking down the shops to get them. It'll be served (my sister and family will be there) on some plain, jasmine rice.

I'm not on a vegetarian diet - it just looked really nice.

I did go vego once for about 12 months to help with dieting, though it only worked until I realised chips were legit.

(you have to ask yourself why it took me so long to realise that, to which I say, "Get stuffed!").

My brother's vegetarian, for health reasons (Irritable Bowel Syndrome - eliminating meat from his diet was what worked for him). He's a decent cook (something I tend to find uncommonly common among the vegos I've known) and I could happily live on his diet, if he would cook it for me.

I do an okay vego laksa, though I normally make chicken laksa.

The Loved One makes an absolutely delicious eggplant parmigiana.

Cheers,
Marc

zelda_pinwheel · 06-28-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by griffonwing

Funny thing.

Back around page 7-8 of this thread, Zelda asked for my Coconut Rum Carrot Cake recipe. On page 9, I gave the recipe. She hasn't made a post since.

I think Zelda is drunk off her arse and gorging herself with carrot cake!!

i wish !

actually i've got eleventy tons of work to do lately and not enough time to follow all the discussions around here.

thanks for the recipe though, i'll note it down and hopefully get a chance to try it soon !

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Originally Posted by Laz116

Well it is weekend after all.

okay, i admit i went to a party last night and came home very late (or very early) and somewhat drunk. but not on carrotcake (there was rum involved though).

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

I find tofu works better in stir fries - you can get it nice and crispy on the outside that way! Marinade it first for more flavour.

I've made lasagna with Quorn mince:

hm, thank you for that recipe !

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Originally Posted by montsnmags

My sister gave us a pumpkin the other day (she can't get rid of the things - even after she ripped the entire plant out, it all came back). Tomorrow I'm making a pumpkin and potato curry, slow-cooked, that looked really nice in the recipe book, though I'll be making a few substitutes (as I tend to do) if I can't be bothered walking down the shops to get them. It'll be served (my sister and family will be there) on some plain, jasmine rice.

I'm not on a vegetarian diet - it just looked really nice.

I did go vego once for about 12 months to help with dieting, though it only worked until I realised chips were legit.

(you have to ask yourself why it took me so long to realise that, to which I say, "Get stuffed!").

My brother's vegetarian, for health reasons (Irritable Bowel Syndrome - eliminating meat from his diet was what worked for him). He's a decent cook (something I tend to find uncommonly common among the vegos I've known) and I could happily live on his diet, if he would cook it for me.

I do an okay vego laksa, though I normally make chicken laksa.

The Loved One makes an absolutely delicious eggplant parmigiana.

Cheers,
Marc

i'm drooling now. can i have those recipes too, please ?? especially the pumpkin curry !!

Verencat · 06-28-2009, 09:14 AM

We should definitely organise a recipie thread revival right now...

zelda_pinwheel · 06-28-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rhari79

Oh..You actually used the phrase..Thanks a million..

If only there is a general clue that there is something alien in there..

Thanks for the warning; I usually have my friend, my food consultant with me, but on an off day I am helpless.

sorry for the late reply rhari, i should clarify though when i said there is chicken broth in those dumplings, i mean a specific dish available in my supermarket, not all japanese dumplings ! i don't know about the general recipe.

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Originally Posted by Verencat

We should definitely organise a recipie thread revival right now...

actually i think i am going to take the liberty of copying the recipe posts into that thread, for safekeeping.

zelda_pinwheel · 06-28-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

actually i think i am going to take the liberty of copying the recipe posts into that thread, for safekeeping.

...done. i've copied am's lasagne recipe and the carrotcake one as well over to the recipe thread. i'll copy marc's as well if he adds them here...

montsnmags · 06-28-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

...done. i've copied am's lasagne recipe and the carrotcake one as well over to the recipe thread. i'll copy marc's as well if he adds them here...

The Visible One has been instructed to pass on his experience of the success or otherwise of said recipe as determined by his evil sibling, her family, The Loved One, and himself, and to pass on the recipe here (or there) should "success" outrank "otherwise".

Yours in a banana daiquiri [HIC!],
Adrian

zelda_pinwheel · 06-28-2009, 09:51 AM

thanks for the assist, adrian.

etherspin · 06-28-2009, 06:16 PM

did someone say vegan yorkshire puddings ??
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/671...hire-Puddings/

there are other recipes out there too !
I've made vegan cheese blocks,omelettes,meat substitutes,marshmallows and more at home - I can only imagine with how easy any effective these are that the yorkshires can be done brilliantly!
Theres even an added benefit when making meat analogues,you can put stuffing in the middle when you start or add extra herbs and flavours from the get go ...

some of the new foods my wife and i have been discovering since going vegan are brilliant, tempeh has so much potential, quinoa kicks rice's sorry ass and agave nectar is beyond awesome!

Sparrow · 06-29-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by etherspin

did someone say vegan yorkshire puddings ??
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/671...hire-Puddings/

there are other recipes out there too !

Great site -

But what is 'egg replacer', is it a particular brand or a generic name?

yvanleterrible · 06-29-2009, 06:23 AM

I wonder how safe some of the ingredients meant to replace eggs really are?

GeoffC · 06-29-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Arrrggghhh! Life without Yorkshire Pudding is not worth living!

Very true .....

Quote:

Originally Posted by etherspin

did someone say vegan yorkshire puddings ??
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/671...hire-Puddings/

I'm not saying Yorkshire Puddings are not possible - they are - it's just that they don't rise like good YP's should ..... !!! There's nowhere to put the gravy!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

I wonder how safe some of the ingredients meant to replace eggs really are?

Most are just a combination of potato starch/tapioca flour/vegetable gum/baking powder/Bicarb ....

For most recipies they are acceptable, but YPs and Chocolate Eclairs not so ..... (believe me I keep trying

)

nekokami · 06-29-2009, 09:18 AM

Starch and gum? I'd have thought there would need to be gluten or some other kind of protein in there. Shows you what I know.

Once I've woken up a bit more, I'll post my hot & sour soup recipe. It does involve an egg, and I'm skeptical of how well egg replacer would work in this case. But I have an idea for a replacement. Let me cogitate on this a bit while I make another pot of tea....

ShortNCuddlyAm · 06-29-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

Most are just a combination of potato starch/tapioca flour/vegetable gum/baking powder/Bicarb ....

For most recipies they are acceptable, but YPs and Chocolate Eclairs not so ..... (believe me I keep trying

)

If you didn't mind the funny sensation on your teeth could you add more baking powder or bicarb?

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06-28-2009, 07:38 AM	#333
montsnmags Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,155 Karma: 4632658 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	My sister gave us a pumpkin the other day (she can't get rid of the things - even after she ripped the entire plant out, it all came back). Tomorrow I'm making a pumpkin and potato curry, slow-cooked, that looked really nice in the recipe book, though I'll be making a few substitutes (as I tend to do) if I can't be bothered walking down the shops to get them. It'll be served (my sister and family will be there) on some plain, jasmine rice. I'm not on a vegetarian diet - it just looked really nice. I did go vego once for about 12 months to help with dieting, though it only worked until I realised chips were legit. (you have to ask yourself why it took me so long to realise that, to which I say, "Get stuffed!"). My brother's vegetarian, for health reasons (Irritable Bowel Syndrome - eliminating meat from his diet was what worked for him). He's a decent cook (something I tend to find uncommonly common among the vegos I've known) and I could happily live on his diet, if he would cook it for me. I do an okay vego laksa, though I normally make chicken laksa. The Loved One makes an absolutely delicious eggplant parmigiana. Cheers, Marc

06-28-2009, 09:14 AM	#335
Verencat Wizard Posts: 2,615 Karma: 96491 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal, Qc Device: xxx	We should definitely organise a recipie thread revival right now...

06-28-2009, 09:51 AM	#339
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	thanks for the assist, adrian.

06-28-2009, 06:16 PM	#340
etherspin Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 292 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: none	did someone say vegan yorkshire puddings ?? http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/671...hire-Puddings/ there are other recipes out there too ! I've made vegan cheese blocks,omelettes,meat substitutes,marshmallows and more at home - I can only imagine with how easy any effective these are that the yorkshires can be done brilliantly! Theres even an added benefit when making meat analogues,you can put stuffing in the middle when you start or add extra herbs and flavours from the get go ... some of the new foods my wife and i have been discovering since going vegan are brilliant, tempeh has so much potential, quinoa kicks rice's sorry ass and agave nectar is beyond awesome!

06-29-2009, 06:23 AM	#342
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	I wonder how safe some of the ingredients meant to replace eggs really are?

06-29-2009, 09:18 AM	#344
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Starch and gum? I'd have thought there would need to be gluten or some other kind of protein in there. Shows you what I know. Once I've woken up a bit more, I'll post my hot & sour soup recipe. It does involve an egg, and I'm skeptical of how well egg replacer would work in this case. But I have an idea for a replacement. Let me cogitate on this a bit while I make another pot of tea....