Sony Ebook Vs. SmartQ 7? - Page 4

HansTWN · 06-18-2009, 01:07 AM

It is a matter of age, too. When you are 20, you won't think much about straining your eyes by reading on an LCD screen. But it might well come back to haunt you later, ask your doctor. And when you are past 40, one look comparing e-ink with any kind of LCD using currently available technologies will have you choosing e-ink for reading longer than 1 hour.

talaivan · 06-19-2009, 01:46 PM

I have the Sony 505 and the Nokia 800. I prefer to read on the latter, using FBReader. The eInk does NOT have enough contrast and I find it strains my eyes. I am almost 67 and recently read several long Russian novels on my old Clie -- no eye strain. I find the Sony usable, but hardly ideal. It flashes, it's slow, and its contrast is terrible. I've ordered the SmartQ 7, as I want a larger screen and it looks ideal for my uses. Chacun son gout.

nanotube · 06-19-2009, 11:57 PM

If I had to buy a device solely for reading purpose, I'd go for the sony 505. I do not own the SmartQ so can't comment on it. I used to read on computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) for long hours and felt dizzy, eyes strained, and saw "flying flies" (like when you look at bright light for a few seconds, sth like that...sorry I dont know how to describe it clearly). Maybe I have bad eyes, I dont know

Thats why I bought the sony 505 last year. To me its like reading a real book and no more watery eyes for me!

scottcstoness2 · 06-20-2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Saying any device is "useless as an ebook reader" is, if not actual FUD, a close relative of FUD.

My toaster is completely useless as an ebook reader. Ridiculous, yes! Inflammatory, perhaps! FUD, I think not :-)

Sweetpea · 06-20-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottcstoness2

My toaster is completely useless as an ebook reader. Ridiculous, yes! Inflammatory, perhaps! FUD, I think not :-)

I think Nate should specify his posts a bit more

doreenjoy · 06-20-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talaivan

I have the Sony 505 and the Nokia 800. I prefer to read on the latter, using FBReader. The eInk does NOT have enough contrast and I find it strains my eyes. I am almost 67 and recently read several long Russian novels on my old Clie -- no eye strain. I find the Sony usable, but hardly ideal. It flashes, it's slow, and its contrast is terrible. I've ordered the SmartQ 7, as I want a larger screen and it looks ideal for my uses. Chacun son gout.

This is interesting because I find the opposite to be true. The older I get, the more reading LCD screens bothers my eyes. I vastly prefer eink.

The other problem I have with devices like the SmartQ7 is the short battery life.

This feels like an advertising thread to me, to tell the truth.

Ankh · 06-21-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottcstoness2

My toaster is completely useless as an ebook reader.

You are using substandard equipment:
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/toasterpc/

Sweetpea · 06-22-2009, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doreenjoy

This is interesting because I find the opposite to be true. The older I get, the more reading LCD screens bothers my eyes. I vastly prefer eink.

The other problem I have with devices like the SmartQ7 is the short battery life.

This feels like an advertising thread to me, to tell the truth.

It probably was started with that intention, yes. But I still think the basis of the question is a nice discussion topic; do you prefer a dedicated e-reader above an UMPC.

About that short battery life. Have you ever timed yourself reading? When I first saw it, I thought it was short. Until I timed myself. And I hardly ever read more than 4 hours straight. I might read a few minutes in the morning, a few minutes while waiting for my partner to pick me up after work, an hour of two in the evening and then I'm going to sleep. At that time, the device can be charged. Only rarely do I have to charge while reading (sickness can be a reason, or a book that I just can't put away...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankh

You are using substandard equipment:
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/toasterpc/

People will make a computer out of everything, won't they?

scottcstoness2 · 06-22-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankh

You are using substandard equipment:
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/toasterpc/

That is both awesome and slightly frightening at the same time!

BlackVoid · 06-23-2009, 08:06 AM

Battery lasts a day!

My Sony 505 LASTS A WEEK (or more). And I never even switch it off. Frankly for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way. The SmartQ is a nice multi-purpose device - if you need such a device, it is fine. I need a book reader and a laptop - I have no use for palmtop like devices.

The handling if SmartQ on this site is a bit weird imho. It got a very large front page space, moderators are attacking anyone who does not like it....

What is going on?

astra · 06-23-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackVoid

The handling if SmartQ on this site is a bit weird imho. It got a very large front page space, moderators are attacking anyone who does not like it....

What is going on?

Only one. Nate the great.

Nate the great · 06-23-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackVoid

Frankly for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way. The SmartQ is a nice multi-purpose device - if you need such a device, it is fine. I need a book reader and a laptop - I have no use for palmtop like devices.

The handling if SmartQ on this site is a bit weird imho. It got a very large front page space, moderators are attacking anyone who does not like it....

What is going on?

The front page post was an error on my part.

And I'm not attacking people. I'm responding to posters who make unfounded and obviously untrue statements, like the one you made above. If "LCD is inferior to eink in every way", then can you tell me where I can get an epapaer device that is:

color,
touch screen,
has a refresh rate as fast as LCD,
and is as cheap as the SmartQ 7?

Please let me know. I'd like to buy one.

Riocaz · 06-23-2009, 11:04 AM

Nate, your arguement would have more weight if you wern't doing the same thing.

He didn't say "LCD is inferior to eink in every way"

He said: "for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way"

I don't agree with that statement (at least not completely) But I would say LCD is better for some applications, e-ink for others.

Why do you need a refresh rate as fast as lcd, colour, for just "reading"?

And "touchscreens" arn't inherant to LCD either for that matter.

They would be nice sure, but they are not neccessary.

You tell me where I can get an LCD device which is as readable as e-ink in bright sunshine and that doesn't give me migraines when reading on the tube...

Nate the great · 06-23-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riocaz

Nate, your arguement would have more weight if you wern't doing the same thing.

He didn't say "LCD is inferior to eink in every way"

He said: "for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way"

I don't agree with that statement (at least not completely) But I would say LCD is better for some applications, e-ink for others.

Why do you need a refresh rate as fast as lcd, colour, for just "reading"?

And "touchscreens" arn't inherant to LCD either for that matter.

They would be nice sure, but they are not neccessary.

You tell me where I can get an LCD device which is as readable as e-ink in bright sunshine and that doesn't give me migraines when reading on the tube...

How could my statement be unfounded when I didn't make one? I asked a question.

Here is the thing I don't think anyone understands. I don't think either technology is better; both have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm just sick and tired of other people making unfounded claims of superiority.

pilotbob · 06-23-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riocaz

You tell me where I can get an LCD device which is as readable as e-ink in bright sunshine and that doesn't give me migraines when reading on the tube...

Wow... you get bright sunshine in your subways?

The "tube" is a subway, right?

BOb

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06-18-2009, 01:07 AM	#46
HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	It is a matter of age, too. When you are 20, you won't think much about straining your eyes by reading on an LCD screen. But it might well come back to haunt you later, ask your doctor. And when you are past 40, one look comparing e-ink with any kind of LCD using currently available technologies will have you choosing e-ink for reading longer than 1 hour.

06-19-2009, 01:46 PM	#47
talaivan Groupie Posts: 188 Karma: 4710362 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Sony prs-505	I have the Sony 505 and the Nokia 800. I prefer to read on the latter, using FBReader. The eInk does NOT have enough contrast and I find it strains my eyes. I am almost 67 and recently read several long Russian novels on my old Clie -- no eye strain. I find the Sony usable, but hardly ideal. It flashes, it's slow, and its contrast is terrible. I've ordered the SmartQ 7, as I want a larger screen and it looks ideal for my uses. Chacun son gout.

06-19-2009, 11:57 PM	#48
nanotube Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: PRS-505	If I had to buy a device solely for reading purpose, I'd go for the sony 505. I do not own the SmartQ so can't comment on it. I used to read on computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) for long hours and felt dizzy, eyes strained, and saw "flying flies" (like when you look at bright light for a few seconds, sth like that...sorry I dont know how to describe it clearly). Maybe I have bad eyes, I dont know Thats why I bought the sony 505 last year. To me its like reading a real book and no more watery eyes for me!

06-23-2009, 08:06 AM	#55
BlackVoid Evangelist Posts: 415 Karma: 510423 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Sony PRS-505	Battery lasts a day! My Sony 505 LASTS A WEEK (or more). And I never even switch it off. Frankly for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way. The SmartQ is a nice multi-purpose device - if you need such a device, it is fine. I need a book reader and a laptop - I have no use for palmtop like devices. The handling if SmartQ on this site is a bit weird imho. It got a very large front page space, moderators are attacking anyone who does not like it.... What is going on?

06-23-2009, 11:04 AM	#58
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	Nate, your arguement would have more weight if you wern't doing the same thing. He didn't say "LCD is inferior to eink in every way" He said: "for book reading LCD is inferior to eink in every way" I don't agree with that statement (at least not completely) But I would say LCD is better for some applications, e-ink for others. Why do you need a refresh rate as fast as lcd, colour, for just "reading"? And "touchscreens" arn't inherant to LCD either for that matter. They would be nice sure, but they are not neccessary. You tell me where I can get an LCD device which is as readable as e-ink in bright sunshine and that doesn't give me migraines when reading on the tube...