Hesitate with DR or kindle DX.........

[owl123]

The slower page turns on DR might be caused by additional PDF processing that is responsible for removing white space margins.

[dlovely]

Originally Posted by yingwu

Could I ask you will keep the DX and throw the DR out or on the contrary ?

I was considering getting rid of the DR because the Wacom is useless to me as I don't mark up any pdf's, it's merely a way to navigate the device while I read. The battery life and non-existent hibernation mode is the 1000 downfall for me as it's annoying to keep it charging while reading.

I don't care about the 3G or amazon store as I don't buy anything from there. I was hoping the DX would render the pdf's flawlessly, have a slightly smaller screen with much better battery time and a better form factor. The feel of it is nicer than the 1000 because of it's slim size and rectangular

The "perfect" reader device for me would be the DX with a black/charcoal bezel, properly displayed pdf's and better document management such as folders. A keyboard isn't necessary for my dream device either, I'd rather have more screen room or a smaller form factor. I would also rather have capacitive buttons as it's quieter and easier for me to use. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

If anyone has ideas for pictures just shoot me some suggestions, I am not a professional photographer so I don't want to disappoint lol

Originally Posted by owl123

The slower page turns on DR might be caused by additional PDF processing that is responsible for removing white space margins.

I agree with that, I don't know the hardware spec differences for processing power if there is a big difference. Some of the pdf's that rendered perfectly turned pages just as quickly as those with tiny print, at least it seemed like that to me.

[myprecious]

In other words - KDX is not an alternative to DR if pdf support is your main priority. Why haven't they (amazon) seized the opportunity to make their product - THE ebook reader?

[yingwu]

Originally Posted by myprecious

In other words - KDX is not an alternative to DR if pdf support is your main priority. Why haven't they (amazon) seized the opportunity to make their product - THE ebook reader?

Yes, I absolutely agree with this. The Amazon seems have their own file format. They enclose PDF just because we want it. The DR is more professional to read PDF. But the DX looks like more pretty, right?

[dlovely]

Originally Posted by myprecious

In other words - KDX is not an alternative to DR if pdf support is your main priority. Why haven't they (amazon) seized the opportunity to make their product - THE ebook reader?

yes the DX purchase was a crapshoot purchase knowing I could return it if I hated it or deal with it and pray for better pdf support down the road. I bought the 1000 thinking that the "open" platform would yield better results and more updates since my K1 received very few updates since I've had it. I'm heading home and will put some comparison pics up later...

[yingwu]

Originally Posted by dlovely

I don't care about the 3G or amazon store as I don't buy anything from there. I was hoping the DX would render the pdf's flawlessly, have a slightly smaller screen with much better battery time and a better form factor. The feel of it is nicer than the 1000 because of it's slim size and rectangular

Your situation is similar with mine. I think I seldom to make annotations except for some simple marks. But considering I am outside of US and rfog just report the final cost to EU is 672. I think I'd better to buy 1000s here.

[dlovely]

excuse the lame photography but it's an example between the 2 units. The one thing I noticed side by side is that the font is much clearer/darker on the 1000 and the DX is pretty light, even more so than K1. I think I read other forums stating the same thing with a light text color on the DX. Side by side page turns and refresh rates, the DX blows away my 1000 on a number of different .pdf's that I chose.

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by rfog

I have a Kindle 2 from some days and... none other device can be compared with it. Speed loading books, speed turning pages (like a PDA), search engine (search entire library, search into a book, search into dictionary). Then only bad thing is screen contrast, that can be solved applying font patch (and you have at least 17 different fonts to select -Georgia 2 makes the difference).

I'm from Spain, and the only thing I cannot do with my K2 is connect internet and direct download from Whispernet. I can read no-drm books and I can purchase and read Amazon DRMed books as I were in USA.

Search in Google for "purchase kindle outside usa" and you will find how. I've purchased a DX and I'm in way to sell my practically new DR (purchased in 2009 Feb).

I still do not see how you can purchase ebooks from Amazon with myUS. MyUS does not provide a US credit card. And if you want the US mailing address it is terribly expensive, and you would still have to get a credit card from a US bank (that isn't so difficult). They purchase the ebooks and send you the files?

[owl123]

HansTWN: Search the forums for a gift certificate workaround. I tried it and it works.

[HansTWN]

Thanks for the info. I was aware of that. But I was looking for a more permanent and easier solution, one which also works at every website. A cheap US mail address (if they just forward it every 3 months or so) would be perfect. Then I would be just like an American, hehehe.

[yingwu]

Originally Posted by dlovely

I think I read other forums stating the same thing with a light text color on the DX. Side by side page turns and refresh rates, the DX blows away my 1000 on a number of different .pdf's that I chose.

Thanks so much for your kind pics. Yes, the comparison is really obvious. But why I feel the DX does not crop the margin? Is this because the PDF file you use is image-based?

So the DX turns pages faster than the DR, how about open a file? Is there obvious difference?

[owl123]

DX doesn't crop PDFs, nor it can zoom them.

[olis]

Thanks for the pictures, dlovely.
Correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying that the contrast ratio (background whiteness vs text blackness) is better on the dr?
Looking at your pictures it seems pretty much the same to me.

[yingwu]

Originally Posted by owl123

DX doesn't crop PDFs, nor it can zoom them.

DX doesn't crop PDFs????

[dlovely]

Originally Posted by olis

Thanks for the pictures, dlovely.
Correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying that the contrast ratio (background whiteness vs text blackness) is better on the dr?
Looking at your pictures it seems pretty much the same to me.

Yes the text stands out on the DR more and is easier to read IMO. The DX on the other hand seems to be lighter in comparison which may not be so obvious from my pictures.

taken from the kindleDX user guide:

Kindle DX can display a PDF document without losing the formatting of the original file. (You cannot change the text size on menus, in PDF
files, or on Kindle screens, such as the Home screen or the Kindle Store.)

3.6 Reading PDF files
Your Kindle DX is able to display most PDF documents.
When your Kindle is held in portrait orientation, PDF documents are displayed in their original layout and fit the entire screen of the device. White margins of PDF documents are automatically cropped to maximize the amount of content shown on the screen.

Originally Posted by yingwu

Thanks so much for your kind pics. Yes, the comparison is really obvious. But why I feel the DX does not crop the margin? Is this because the PDF file you use is image-based?

So the DX turns pages faster than the DR, how about open a file? Is there obvious difference?

I tried it with the openfile on the DR and really there is no comparison. The DX is much snappier and the refresh rate is much quicker using the identical pdf's. The DR occasionally turns pages quickly but has that pop-up often that say's I believe "please wait", the DX doesn't hesitate like that even when clicking the button many times in a row.