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Old 06-15-2009, 07:11 PM   #121
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An other thing that's overdue, after switching from wasteful to better ways, we'll have to clean up. Take that floating plastic dump in the Pacific, who's going to take action?
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #122
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Yup... that's just achin' for an application of good ol' American know-how...
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:28 PM   #123
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Yup... that's just achin' for an application of good ol' American know-how...
Please. Good ol' American know-how went out with the big hair in the '80's. Now it's, "Don't worry, we'll let the government take care of the problem."
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Old 06-15-2009, 11:16 PM   #124
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Duke Nukem Forever...

And unfortunately, you might have to around 30 to even get the humor...
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:14 AM   #125
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Duke Nukem Forever...

And unfortunately, you might have to around 30 to even get the humor...
Unfortunately, we are never going to get that one (well, not that we were ever going to get it anyways, but still...) because the developers shut down.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...s-closes-doors
http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1127

Ah, well. We will always have the Duke Nukem Forever List.
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:27 AM   #126
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But you can still buy it (or some of it's varants like Duke Nukem:Manhattan Project) pretty cheap. (I am assuming these are legal, they appear to be. Mods please kill this post if I am mistaken)
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:07 AM   #127
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Nuclear is energy I don't appreciate but it works reliably and has ties to the medical sciences. We have to watch it forever and I don't trust us to be able to with enough "rigueur". It's the slipups that will be dangerous.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:43 AM   #128
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:35 PM   #129
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:51 PM   #130
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I think these cars are definately going to be the way to go. All the cleanliness of an electric car with the convenience of refilling like a petrol car (well kind of - no 8 hour charge cycles etc)

Honda have one they are already leasing in Japan and the US but in very small volumes
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:58 PM   #131
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I think these cars are definately going to be the way to go. All the cleanliness of an electric car with the convenience of refilling like a petrol car (well kind of - no 8 hour charge cycles etc)

Honda have one they are already leasing in Japan and the US but in very small volumes
Be careful with this one. It is an Electric Vehicle with motors on each wheels that are fed electricity by a fuel cell. That fuel cell is fed hydrogen. Fuel cells are far away from being affordable so far. The principle of a fuel cell is the direct opposite of making hydrogen, in which if you put two electrodes in simple water, oxygen gas will go to one pole and hydrogen to the other pole.

BMW has a real hydrogen conventional type combustion engine.

There are storage drawbacks to hydrogen. The atom is the smallest so it permeates through any containment material. The best container will leak 3% a day. The ideal solution would be to have a hydrogen micro-plant at your home, produce the gas during the night and fill your car tank in the morning. If you need some more during the day you could fill in at some filling station. The goal of car makers and their owners (petrol manufacturers) is to support the fuel manufacturing and distribution infrastructures. This is why they are finding ways around EVs with different fuels such as hydrogen, biodiesels, hybrids, gas and whatever. They are totally against EVs and give you whatever reasons against them. There I go again!

If I had land enough, I'd get the air car and do part of the tank filling with wind generated compressors.
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:07 PM   #132
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Interesting stuff. Will have to investigate further - thanks Yvan
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Glad to share.

There is an other point about hydrogen i'd like to share. I've heard this one and it made me blue with rage. You know that hydrogen is simply made with water and electricity. Well them stupid oil mongers want to make it from bloody OIL!!!!
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Glad to share.

There is an other point about hydrogen i'd like to share. I've heard this one and it made me blue with rage. You know that hydrogen is simply made with water and electricity. Well them stupid oil mongers want to make it from bloody OIL!!!!
That's mad - it's like, everywhere - no need to use oil!!!
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It is worth noting that, as you said, there are two components to hydrogen production. Water (getting more expensive and rarer every day) and electricity (now where is that coming from? (other than the wall I mean)).

I suspect that in an analysis of the two power cycles, electricity-to-battery-to-wheels and water-and-electricity-to-hydrogen-to-fuel or fuel cell-to-wheels the battery cycle will prove more efficient. Of course you have to factor in the environmental impact of battery manufacturing and disposal.

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