Sony Ebook Vs. SmartQ 7?

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by rogue_ronin

Y'know I had a long post responding to you.
I deleted it. There are always guys like you around, complaining that folks who speak up against cupidity, ignorance and prejudice ought to just quiet down so no one has to feel bad about their greed, stupidity or bigotry.

Hm, that idicates that you took my post personal. No need for that. There is also no need to speak up against surmised(!) "cupidity, ignorance and prejudice" here. It heats up the discussion which is completely unnecessary.

Originally Posted by rogue_ronin

"FUD" statements (by which I assume you mean "anti-FUD") are absolutely, utterly necessary. When you don't call on them, that's how FUD spreads.

Sure, but your prejudice is that the other posters here are ignorant because they are saying that the Q7 is not a dedicated reader because of it's comparatively short battery life and the lack of an eye-friendly E-INK screen.
I've to use LCD's the whole day and just can't read on a LCD then in the evening or night. I tried it and it didn't work because my eyes are tired after a workday in front of LCD displays. The E-INK screen of my sony was a pleasent surprise for me and my eyes. I couldn't use the SmartQ 7 with it's screen as general ebook reader. Am i ignorant now?

[kaas]

while I see the q7 as a very interesting alternative, the battery time kills it for me. If I have the leisure, I like to read for hours and hours, and not always will there be a power plug available, especially while I am travelling. Thus ANY e-ink eader would win out for me. I am eagerly awaiting the Pixel-Qi displays, as that should increase available read times on lcd devices...

cheers,

kaas

[Renaldo]

The SmartQ 7 looks like a cool device, but I'd still never consider it for a reader. If I owned one, I'm sure I'd read on it; but it strikes me as being a large screen PDA with better memory. I've owned a few PDA's, I've read on them, and while they were functional I much prefer an eink screen for reading than a backlit LCD.

I really don't see any FUD here, but it does seem like rogue_ronin can't accept other people's opinions while at the same time he's asserting his own as fact. The great thing about technology is that there's something offered for everyone, and we can all pick our devices based on our own personal needs and opinions.

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Preferring Eink is one thing. Going to a thread about an LCD based device and saying it's "useless as ebook reader." is another. What astra did was a negative act. It wasn't in support of Eink; it attacked LCD.

Also, it wasn't stated as an opinion; it comes across as a statement of _fact_.

Well, i also do disagree with the statement that the Q7 is "useless as ebook reader" in general. But we compare the PRS-500/505 with the Q7 here and in this comparism the sony devices may be more useful as dedicated ebook readers imho (and as well in the opinion of other posters). Astras post - even written as fact - was just an opinion when comparing an LCD-device with E-INK based devices. Astra offered two arguments: battery life and display technology. I didn't recognize that as "attacking LCD".

[wallcraft]

I don't think the SmartQ 7 is a better reading device than the PRS-505, but the comparison is much closer than it would have been with a general purpose device even a year ago. The SmartQ may already be "good enough", and the FictionWise eReader software for Linux may put it over the top. If FictionWise is smart, they will release ARM binaries when this comes out this summer.

Eink is standing still, or putting all its efforts into adding color, and other EPD alternatives still don't seem ready for prime time. Meanwhile LCD technology is getting better, and in particular cheaper and less power hungry. Batteries are also getting more capable. In a year, devices like the SmartQ will be cheaper with a longer battery life. What will happen to EInk devices in a year? They seem to be getting more expensive, e.g. adding wireless and a touch screen (both of which the SmartQ already has). The reason for a dedicated single-purpose device is lower cost and/or greater capability. The Sony's still win, but they are not pulling away.

[Sweetpea]

What is better?

I don't think you can compare a dedicated e-reader with a general purpose device that can also read e-books. Both have advantages and disadvantages. In the end it's you that decides what is best for you. You want a device that is easily readeable outside? You go for the Sony, as the SmartQ doesn't have a transflective screen and is fairly useless outside, in direct sunlight. You want a long battery life so you don't have to charge that often? Again, the Sony is your choice. You want to browse the internet? You go for the SmartQ. You want to watch movies while on the road? You again go for the SmartQ.

I feel comparing the SmartQ with any dedicated ebook reader is comparing apples with pears... They do look alike (somewhat), but are completely different...

[Renaldo]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Preferring Eink is one thing. Going to a thread about an LCD based device and saying it's "useless as ebook reader." is another.

This thread is in the Sony 500/505 forum.

This thread is titled Sony Ebook Vs. SmartQ 7?

This thread is not about an LCD based device.

This thread is about an LCD based device being compared to the Sony readers.

This is the thread where you seem to have stepped outside of your role as a moderator and for some reason chose to pick on a member who shared the exact same opinion as many of the others posting in this thread.

[Sweetpea]

If somebody says the SmartQ is useless as ereader just because it has a LCD screen, I don't think that person is comparing the LCD device with the e-ink device.

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

If somebody says the SmartQ is useless as ereader just because it has a LCD screen, I don't think that person is comparing the LCD device with the e-ink device.

There were two arguments: No E-INK and comparatively short battery life. That said we shouldn't take every word with a pinch of salt.

LCDs aren't that bad for reading, they have some advantages over E-INKs (especially performance, robustness and color) and they are getting better and better but they still lack the eye-friendly experience of E-INK while consuming more energy. I would buy a cheap LCD-based reading device for reading on the go if it offers good readability outside. The jetBook for example could be such a device as shown here - but the SmartQ 7 just doesn't offer that good readability.

[sayhello]

Um, FUD? What be this FUD?

Sayhello

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by netseeker

but the SmartQ 7 just doesn't offer that good readability.

Oh, I agree. Because, and I say it yet again!, it's not transflective...

I was at the CeBIT earlier this year. I saw my first e-ink device there. And when I compared that screen with my transflective LCD screen, I hardly noticed any difference. Except that I had colour and that e-ink device didn't...

(I had a black letter on a yellowish/white background, instead of a grayish/white)

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by Renaldo

This thread is in the Sony 500/505 forum.

This thread is titled Sony Ebook Vs. SmartQ 7?

This thread is not about an LCD based device.

This thread is about an LCD based device being compared to the Sony readers.

This is the thread where you seem to have stepped outside of your role as a moderator and for some reason chose to pick on a member who shared the exact same opinion as many of the others posting in this thread.

This thread actually started out as an ad for someone who is importing the Smart Q7 into the US. I thought it was rather blatant, but apparently I was the only one who noticed.


P.S. I just got back from running an errand. This gave me some time to rethink my previous statements, and I've realized that I was right. Saying any device is "useless as an ebook reader" is, if not actual FUD, a close relative of FUD.

[kaas]

"Um, FUD? What be this FUD?

Sayhello "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_u...inty_and_doubt

"Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric and fallacy used in sales, marketing, public relations,[1][2] politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative information designed to undermine the credibility of their beliefs"

here you go

cheers,
kaas

[sayhello]

Originally Posted by kaas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_u...inty_and_doubt

"Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric and fallacy used in sales, marketing, public relations,[1][2] politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative information designed to undermine the credibility of their beliefs"

here you go

cheers,
kaas

Thanks! I had horrid images of being some sort of teen netspeak like "F*** Ur Device"...

Sayhello

[Who are you?]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Preferring Eink is one thing. Going to a thread about an LCD based device and saying it's "useless as ebook reader." is another. What astra did was a negative act. It wasn't in support of Eink; it attacked LCD.

Also, it wasn't stated as an opinion; it comes across as a statement of _fact_.

And as for your last sentence, it's not too far from the impression I get from posts like astra's.

This is not a thread about an LCD device. This is a thread in the Sony 505 EInk forum asking for opinions on whether an LCD device might be a good competitor to the 505.

For some people a readable display on an ereader is important. This is a fact. However it is in no way an attack.

Apparently people who have bought or are interested in the Sony 505 (that's why they are visiting the 505 forum!) have the opinion that an LCD device would not be a good replacement, and not only do they give this opinion, they even support it with what they think is the root cause: an inferior display.