Comparison of Kindle DX and iRex DR1000 - Page 3

HarryT · 06-12-2009, 12:32 PM

Interesting. In that case, I am somewhat at a loss to understand why the PDF support is so lacking.

tklaus · 06-12-2009, 12:38 PM

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But Sony have licenced the code for PDF reflow from Adobe. Can you really see Adobe signing a deal with Amazon? I'm afraid I don't see how one can conclude that "it's obviously not that hard"; it may not be "hard" for the originators of the PDF format (Adobe) to do so, but that doesn't mean that it's not "hard" for third parties to duplicate the work.

Open source PDF viewers like Okular support clickable links, so I don't see why it would be hard for Amazon to do so.

sirbruce · 06-12-2009, 03:58 PM

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The DX's "credits" should show whether or not it contains code licensed from Adobe. I would imagine it would be acknowledged on whatever screen it is that shows all the copyright stuff.

Actually PDF support is fine; they just slapped the viewer on there. But there's very little *integration* with the other Kindle fuctions.

minhiub · 06-12-2009, 06:10 PM

How does DX compare to DR1000 when it comes to read a book. DX claims that we can actually read a page of a book as it shows in the real life, does DR1000 has the same ability?

Also, this question may seem stupid because I never buy ebook from amazon so I am really not sure what format they use, could anyone please tell me?

kevindorsey · 06-12-2009, 06:15 PM

So far, it seems DR1000 is a safer option

wallcraft · 06-12-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by minhiub

How does DX compare to DR1000 when it comes to read a book. DX claims that we can actually read a page of a book as it shows in the real life, does DR1000 has the same ability?

Also, this question may seem stupid because I never buy ebook from amazon so I am really not sure what format they use, could anyone please tell me?

Amazon has two formats, TOPAZ is only available on the Kindle and is typically used to get older printed books into an ebook format (and is not very common) and AZW is Amazon's name for the same MOBI format that is used on the DR1000S. The Kindle's reader software is also based on the same Java MOBI reader as on the DR1000S.

The Kindle only has 6 font sizes, but the DR1000S has many more sizes and a much larger maximum font size. The Kindle can lookup "instantly" in one dictionary but the DR1000S can lookup words in multiple dictionaries. The KDX has significantly better image support in ebooks. I don't think the DR1000S can use landscape mode on MOBI books, as the KDX can.

sirbruce · 06-12-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by minhiub

Also, this question may seem stupid because I never buy ebook from amazon so I am really not sure what format they use, could anyone please tell me?

Amazon sells books primarily in a special DRMed MOBI format called AZW. They occassionally sell books in a slower, less-readable, custom font format called Topaz (AZW1 or TPZ). You can't easily tell in advance if you're getting a MOBI or TPZ book. The Kindle also reads non-DRM MOBI and TXT files without conversion. Amazon does not sell PDF files.

minhiub · 06-12-2009, 09:49 PM

@wallcraft and sirbruce, thank you so much for your help.

Based in your answers, I think there would be no problem if I use the DR1000 to read the ebooks that purchase from Amazon, is it right? Just to echo the question I have before, since DR1000 has so many font sizes, does it normally show the full page of the book as DX?

Also, does DR1000 have the rotation function as the DX?

sirbruce · 06-12-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by minhiub

@wallcraft and sirbruce, thank you so much for your help.

Based in your answers, I think there would be no problem if I use the DR1000 to read the ebooks that purchase from Amazon, is it right?

Theoretically, if you strip the DRM off of them, you could read the Amazon books on a DR1000 I think. Not because the DR1000 doesn't support DRM, but because the Amazon books will be encoded for a specific Kindle, not the DR1000. But you can't buy Amazon books anyway unless you have a Kindle registered on the account, so I really don't see this as a viable option unless you plan on owning both.

fugazied · 06-12-2009, 10:53 PM

I think the main benefits of the iRex really are the SDHC support and directory style filing. Both are awesome. I guess they are really advantages for people who have huge collections.
I'm at about 75 books, so the Kindle can handle that pretty easily.

phantoz · 06-13-2009, 01:02 AM

I was really looking forward to the irex full size devices but after seeing their poor response to community questions, the high price, and the size of it, I decided against it. I'm now thinking of the DX instead, but might be able to be swayed back if the DX can't do what I really need (which is to read technical papers). Any thoughts from a DX owner (or irex) on whether the devices can do:

1. Can you usb transfer pdfs to the dx? (I don't have cdma access)
2. Can you shut off cdma? (battery life!)
3. I need to read technical papers in it, something like (for instance) this: http://www.cs.usask.ca/~cab938/icalt...leva_cooke.pdf -- is this readable on a dx?

Thoughts always welcome...

p

sirbruce · 06-13-2009, 01:40 AM

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1. Can you usb transfer pdfs to the dx? (I don't have cdma access)

Yes.

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Originally Posted by phantoz

2. Can you shut off cdma? (battery life!)

Yes; you can do this on all Kindles.

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Originally Posted by phantoz

3. I need to read technical papers in it, something like (for instance) this: http://www.cs.usask.ca/~cab938/icalt...leva_cooke.pdf -- is this readable on a dx?

Yes.

minhiub · 06-13-2009, 02:17 AM

I just have a irrelevant question but since I already had a similar question here, I thought it would be acceptable to have it here. Here is my question, do we need to purchasing an sony ereader in order to buy book in its online store? What kind of format they use for the ebooks, pdf or something else?

HarryT · 06-13-2009, 03:06 AM

Sony's eBook store uses a format called "LRX", which only the Sony can read.

Digriz · 06-13-2009, 07:20 AM

I own both...

The DR1000 just sits on my shelf of shame of I didn't do enough research devices. it has been way too quirky. PDF support war really slowI really wanted to like the device especially with the newspaper support, etc. After 6 months+I gave up on it. Though, to be fair haven't updated to the latest 1.5 firmware.

Kindle DX on the other hand turned it on and everything just works. All my old books were sent over to it from Amazon with a couple of clicks. Leather cover keeps itself closed with some kind of magnet. Blogs get auto pushed, Keyboard lets you search with ease.

Just my 2 cents.

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06-12-2009, 12:32 PM	#31
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Interesting. In that case, I am somewhat at a loss to understand why the PDF support is so lacking.

06-12-2009, 06:10 PM	#34
minhiub Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: none	How does DX compare to DR1000 when it comes to read a book. DX claims that we can actually read a page of a book as it shows in the real life, does DR1000 has the same ability? Also, this question may seem stupid because I never buy ebook from amazon so I am really not sure what format they use, could anyone please tell me?

06-12-2009, 06:15 PM	#35
kevindorsey Evangelist Posts: 488 Karma: 258 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: kindle	So far, it seems DR1000 is a safer option

06-12-2009, 09:49 PM	#38
minhiub Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: none	@wallcraft and sirbruce, thank you so much for your help. Based in your answers, I think there would be no problem if I use the DR1000 to read the ebooks that purchase from Amazon, is it right? Just to echo the question I have before, since DR1000 has so many font sizes, does it normally show the full page of the book as DX? Also, does DR1000 have the rotation function as the DX?

06-12-2009, 10:53 PM	#40
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	I think the main benefits of the iRex really are the SDHC support and directory style filing. Both are awesome. I guess they are really advantages for people who have huge collections. I'm at about 75 books, so the Kindle can handle that pretty easily.

06-13-2009, 01:02 AM	#41
phantoz Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: none	I was really looking forward to the irex full size devices but after seeing their poor response to community questions, the high price, and the size of it, I decided against it. I'm now thinking of the DX instead, but might be able to be swayed back if the DX can't do what I really need (which is to read technical papers). Any thoughts from a DX owner (or irex) on whether the devices can do: 1. Can you usb transfer pdfs to the dx? (I don't have cdma access) 2. Can you shut off cdma? (battery life!) 3. I need to read technical papers in it, something like (for instance) this: http://www.cs.usask.ca/~cab938/icalt...leva_cooke.pdf -- is this readable on a dx? Thoughts always welcome... p

06-13-2009, 02:17 AM	#43
minhiub Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: none	I just have a irrelevant question but since I already had a similar question here, I thought it would be acceptable to have it here. Here is my question, do we need to purchasing an sony ereader in order to buy book in its online store? What kind of format they use for the ebooks, pdf or something else?

06-13-2009, 03:06 AM	#44
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Sony's eBook store uses a format called "LRX", which only the Sony can read.

06-13-2009, 07:20 AM	#45
Digriz Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Device: PRS-505/kindle 2/dr1000	I own both... The DR1000 just sits on my shelf of shame of I didn't do enough research devices. it has been way too quirky. PDF support war really slowI really wanted to like the device especially with the newspaper support, etc. After 6 months+I gave up on it. Though, to be fair haven't updated to the latest 1.5 firmware. Kindle DX on the other hand turned it on and everything just works. All my old books were sent over to it from Amazon with a couple of clicks. Leather cover keeps itself closed with some kind of magnet. Blogs get auto pushed, Keyboard lets you search with ease. Just my 2 cents.