Astak Mentor eBook readers with WiFi and Touchscreen (read-only) - Page 152

AJ Starr · 06-09-2009, 02:59 PM

Dare I mention this...

could the glitches be the "not charged fully" battery we keep hearing about.....??!?!?

AJ

Robertb · 06-09-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Dear Robert.

Please tell us, does Pocket Pro support folders?

Dear Kacir:

I want to answer your question but you gave me only a little info here. I hope I do not miss your point.

Yes, you can create and fill all folders on your PC or MAC and then drag and drop them into the EZ Reader Pocket PRO using USB. I do this for my music files as I am that rare breed that loves his music on his eBook Reader and likes everything very clear on the device. I hate hunting for things. I have a folder for country music, hard rock, soft rock, pop, and Portugese Water Dog barks (a little humor).

Have I missed your point? I know you are sharp and that is why I am not sure I hit this one fully.

Robertb · 06-09-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ Starr

Dare I mention this...

could the glitches be the "not charged fully" battery we keep hearing about.....??!?!?

AJ

Dear AJ:

When I unpacked the two samples my first reaction was to charge fully. I always tell others to do this and so I do not trust the charge gauge. So, I charged fully and then tried it.

It is not too earth-shaking with prototypes to see them freeze up on occasion. So, I know all will be fixed very quickly. It just makes it hard to fully test the device. I am by now so use to the EZ Reader which never complains and never hangs up (freezes).

I mentioned this because a very few have said I always tell the good and never mention the bad. So, yesterday I mentioned what is my first reaction in that it turns pages like the wind,the case is improved and holds even better than on the 6 inch, and there are features on the Pocket PRO we did not even know it had... but it will freeze with the existing firmware. Apparently, they were working on cramming more into this device and the new additions cause a glitch. It's normal with prototypes.

kacir · 06-09-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

Have I missed your point? I know you are sharp and that is why I am not sure I hit this one fully.

What I meant is this

Most of the readers work like this:
You drag and drop (or create on an SD card) any kind of folder structure, yet, when you start your device it does not display folders, you can not browse your folder structure. All you get is a "flat" view, with all the files dumped in one very long list.

The device "supports folders" when you can create folders on your SD card:

Code:

Fiction
     First Author
            Horror story.mobi
            Novel.mobi
     Second Author
            first Book.txt
            second book.txt
            third one.txt
manuals
     how to cook egg.txt
     Learn rocket building in 24 hours.pdf
random_text.txt
shopping_list.txt

and when you start the device you are presented with:

Code:

Fiction
manuals
random_text.txt
shopping_list.txt

Then you put cursor on Fiction, press enter/OK/whatever button and you are presented with another list

Code:

First Author
Second Author

With the VAST majority of current devices that do not support folders you get:

Code:

Horror story.mobi
Novel.mobi
first Book.txt
second book.txt
third one.txt
how to cook egg.txt
Learn rocket building in 24 hours.pdf
random_text.txt
shopping_list.txt

wallcraft · 06-09-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

Most of the readers work like this:
You drag and drop (or create on an SD card) any kind of folder structure, yet, when you start your device it does not display folders, you can not browse your folder structure. All you get is a "flat" view, with all the files dumped in one very long list.

The EZ Reader fully supports folders, i.e. it isn't like most readers. It sounds like the EZ Reader Pocket PRO supports folder too. I have some screenshots (actually scans) from my EZ Reader in File Navigation: Hanlin V3 vs OpenInkPot.

Sonist · 06-09-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

... I have some screenshots (actually scans) from my EZ Reader in File Navigation: Hanlin V3 vs OpenInkPot.

Just looked at the photos. Pretty neat, but cover icons would be better.

On another subject, wow! That huge EZ Reader logo is ugly enough, to prevent me from considering the product bearing it. I seriously couldn't look at it on regular basis :-) It looks cheesy and makes the device look cheap....

Astak needs to think of design, if it's to play with the big boys.

Robertb · 06-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

The EZ Reader fully supports folders, i.e. it isn't like most readers. It sounds like the EZ Reader Pocket PRO supports folder too. I have some screenshots (actually scans) from my EZ Reader in File Navigation: Hanlin V3 vs OpenInkPot.

Dear Wallcraft:

Thank you for answering Kacir's question. I appreciate the help very much.

The EZ Reader Pocket PRO and EZ Reader Basic are so much the same with only great features added. I am sure that the Pocket PRO must support folders just like its big brother.

Robertb · 06-09-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonist

Just looked at the photos. Pretty neat, but cover icons would be better.

On another subject, wow! That huge EZ Reader logo is ugly enough, to prevent me from considering the product bearing it. I seriously couldn't look at it on regular basis :-) It looks cheesy and makes the device look cheap....

Astak needs to think of design, if it's to play with the big boys.

Dear Sonist:

WOW!! You do not hold anything back. Perhaps you could have said that you threw up upon site of it or something (ha).

OK, two bad comments on the website logo are enough for me. I am going to have them come up with a better design.

What happened is that we vote by committee. 9 staff members have one vote each and I got outvoted by the young girls. Let me see if I can find what I origionally voted for and I will try to post that to see if that is better.

Sorry, didn't mean to cause such a violent reaction. Last time Griffonwing hunted me down and beat hell out of me. Please do not tell him!!

griffonwing · 06-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

Dear Sonist:

WOW!! You do not hold anything back. Perhaps you could have said that you threw up upon site of it or something (ha).

OK, two bad comments on the website logo are enough for me. I am going to have them come up with a better design.

What happened is that we vote by committee. 9 staff members have one vote each and I got outvoted by the young girls. Let me see if I can find what I origionally voted for and I will try to post that to see if that is better.

Sorry, didn't mean to cause such a violent reaction. Last time Griffonwing hunted me down and beat hell out of me. Please do not tell him!!

I believe he was referring to the oddly disturbing "EZ Reader" logo used on the top face of the reader unit itself, not the website logo.

I must concur as well. I also would prefer a much more streamlined, professional logo on my reader as well. The 'EZ' is very bold and in a font that, well, looks like it was drawn by someone in kindergarten.

The only real positive comment that I can make on it is that it definately leaves a brand impression, but it might not be the impression you are wanting.

It looks like the beating didn't do any good. Care for round 2?

wallcraft · 06-09-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

OK, two bad comments on the website logo are enough for me.

I think Sonist was commenting on the size of the EZ Reader logo on the EZ Reader itself (i.e. in my scans).

It is a bit big, but in daily use I don't think I even see it any more. What is on the screen is the important thing.

AJ Starr · 06-09-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

Dear Sonist:

OK, two bad comments on the website logo are enough for me. I am going to have them come up with a better design.

Robertb I think you might have misunderstood which logo he meant. I understood he meant the EZ Reader logo on the device...
AJ

Edit:
Shessh, two answers posted while I was typing mine.......

phenomshel · 06-09-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

Dear Sonist:

WOW!! You do not hold anything back. Perhaps you could have said that you threw up upon site of it or something (ha).

OK, two bad comments on the website logo are enough for me. I am going to have them come up with a better design.

What happened is that we vote by committee. 9 staff members have one vote each and I got outvoted by the young girls. Let me see if I can find what I origionally voted for and I will try to post that to see if that is better.

Sorry, didn't mean to cause such a violent reaction. Last time Griffonwing hunted me down and beat hell out of me. Please do not tell him!!

Robert, I hate to admit it, but Sonist is right. Both about the logo on the website, AND the logo on the device itself. I'll restrain Griffonwing, but you simply MUST do something about your design team! Try going for restrained and elegant.
The white/silver of the device logo (EZReader) really stands out on the dark colors of the cases. That logo needs to be in maybe a script font (though with the capital letters that won't be easy), or maybe even two different fonts (the EZ in caps in non-script and then "Reader" in something nice and flowy. I can knock out a few samples and send them if you like...

Sonist · 06-09-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffonwing

I believe he was referring to the oddly disturbing "EZ Reader" logo used on the top face of the reader unit itself....

To clarify, yes.

In branding, simple is often a very good thing. Even Amazon figured it out, after the K 1 (and ripped off Apple - pretty successfully, IMO :-)

P.S. Robert, one last word of friendly advise: Never, ever, do design by committee :-) Assign it to someone you trust, and then trust them.

phenomshel · 06-09-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffonwing

I believe he was referring to the oddly disturbing "EZ Reader" logo used on the top face of the reader unit itself, not the website logo.

I must concur as well. I also would prefer a much more streamlined, professional logo on my reader as well. The 'EZ' is very bold and in a font that, well, looks like it was drawn by someone in kindergarten.

The only real positive comment that I can make on it is that it definately leaves a brand impression, but it might not be the impression you are wanting.

It looks like the beating didn't do any good. Care for round 2?

Don't make me restrain you! (you might enjoy it too much... *evil grin*)

AJ Starr · 06-09-2009, 05:55 PM

As long as we are being picky......

Robert, you probably aught to replace your Avatar with the Reader versus the Mentor, since we all talk about the Reader.....

AJ

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AJ Starr Guru Posts: 815 Karma: 1029784 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nebraska, USA Device: PEZ, Color Libre, 2@Sony T1, Onyx i62HD	Dare I !!?! Dare I mention this... could the glitches be the "not charged fully" battery we keep hearing about.....??!?!? AJ

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AJ Starr Guru Posts: 815 Karma: 1029784 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nebraska, USA Device: PEZ, Color Libre, 2@Sony T1, Onyx i62HD	Reader vs Mentor As long as we are being picky...... Robert, you probably aught to replace your Avatar with the Reader versus the Mentor, since we all talk about the Reader..... AJ

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