Astak Mentor eBook readers with WiFi and Touchscreen (read-only) - Page 150

phenomshel · 06-03-2009, 12:53 AM

You can't really blame him, Robert. I mean, look at it objectively. You can buy your books anywhere, nearly, you have the expandable storage via SD card, and as you have said, the thing is built like a tank (I can corroborate, I juggled mine and dropped it and it's fine). Except for not having whispernet access to buy books with, (which to me is overkill anyway, sorry), the EZ Reader has a LOT of advantages over the Kindle 2.

Robertb · 06-03-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

You can't really blame him, Robert. I mean, look at it objectively. You can buy your books anywhere, nearly, you have the expandable storage via SD card, and as you have said, the thing is built like a tank (I can corroborate, I juggled mine and dropped it and it's fine). Except for not having whispernet access to buy books with, (which to me is overkill anyway, sorry), the EZ Reader has a LOT of advantages over the Kindle 2.

Dear ALL:

Thank you, phenom!!

I have been all over the internet trying to find good shots of the new Pocket PRO (V5) and all shots are essentially of the screen. I was trying to find the rumored scroll wheel. Overnight, Jinke sent me two good side shots that you may want to see... and confirmed the scroll wheel on the right-hand side. I do not yet know its full function. I will get more info on that.

Anyway, I just tried and I need to change the type of file before I can post.

pkovak · 06-03-2009, 12:33 PM

Depends on user. For your basic "noob", whispernet is a good thing, if you live in the right part of the world. If you learn how to use it fast - it's good, it works. Yes, it will also lock you to one shop to spend your money, among other things, but your basic user don't care, or don't see an alternative. Knowledge is power, in this example, it gives you choice, you know you will master another system fast and you will be able to get the books you want on it.

Robertb · 06-03-2009, 12:34 PM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/att...1&d=1244046819

Robertb · 06-03-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pkovak

Depends on user. For your basic "noob", whispernet is a good thing, if you live in the right part of the world. If you learn how to use it fast - it's good, it works. Yes, it will also lock you to one shop to spend your money, among other things, but your basic user don't care, or don't see an alternative. Knowledge is power, in this example, it gives you choice, you know you will master another system fast and you will be able to get the books you want on it.

I concur that the basic end user likely will not care as he does not know better. I think that most people who buy eBook Readers are buying their first one and they may likely only know it works and they can choose books they want. They are not aware (maybe do not want to be aware) that there is a trade off known as "freedom of choice". Thank you, pkovak!

brecklundin · 06-03-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertb

Dear ALL:

Thank you, phenom!!

I have been all over the internet trying to find good shots of the new Pocket PRO (V5) and all shots are essentially of the screen. I was trying to find the rumored scroll wheel. Overnight, Jinke sent me two good side shots that you may want to see... and confirmed the scroll wheel on the right-hand side. I do not yet know its full function. I will get more info on that.

Anyway, I just tried and I need to change the type of file before I can post.

sorry that is the wrong side if it is for navigation as in the old Clie's.

phenomshel · 06-03-2009, 01:50 PM

Well, in perspective of noob to ebook readers, I'd qualify, the EZ Reader is my first device, and I've had it all of three months or so. BUT... I was and am familiar with computers (though I hate command line), and I did my homework (thanks to all of you here at MR) so I wouldn't call myself "a basic end user". pkovak has a good point - whispernet IS easy (or so I've heard) and convenient, but I DO care about having my books backed up (which is something the basic user might not think about). There are a lot of people who read a book and discard it, but I'm not one of them, which is why a Kindle just isn't for me. I want my freedom of choice as to where to buy and where I can store the book, among a myriad of other concerns.

pkovak · 06-03-2009, 03:26 PM

You hate command line? Why? Do you not understand the beauty of Holy Pipe, chains of commands that make it much faster, more powerful and more precise than any icon or graphical representation can be? I will pray to Holy Pipe to enlighten you with it's knowledge!
Oh, you are speaking about windows command line don't you... OK, right, you don't understand then...

Any sensible person should backup his/her/it's important files if they have a choice - and backing up books is so easy, thanks to their size. Just wait, a lot of these people will find out how important it is - the hard way.

Robertb · 06-03-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brecklundin

sorry that is the wrong side if it is for navigation as in the old Clie's.

Dear Brecklundin:

Thank you. Will be sure to get full info on scroll wheel tonight when China wakes up and comes to work.

Robertb · 06-03-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkovak

You hate command line? Why? Do you not understand the beauty of Holy Pipe, chains of commands that make it much faster, more powerful and more precise than any icon or graphical representation can be? I will pray to Holy Pipe to enlighten you with it's knowledge!
Oh, you are speaking about windows command line don't you... OK, right, you don't understand then...

Any sensible person should backup his/her/it's important files if they have a choice - and backing up books is so easy, thanks to their size. Just wait, a lot of these people will find out how important it is - the hard way.

Dear pkovak:

I know Phenomshel as a really helpful person. I think she is just stating her view and I know you well state yours. Wireless is coming and we have not stopped working on it. I have not mentioned much on the EZ Reader Plus (Wi-Fi) and EZ Reader PRO (3G and more) simply because the factory has not updated me.

I am assured both of these are moving along and we are trying to offer either of you the choice that you want.

phenomshel · 06-03-2009, 06:35 PM

It's ok, Robert, I think he was teasing. I can USE command line. I had to learn, for certain shall not be mentioned on this forum activities. But doesn't mean I LIKE it. I used Linux for a year as my primary O/S (Fedora). Went back to Windows due to lack of Paint Shop Pro. My husband feels the same way you do about the command line being beautiful in it's simplicity. It's just not something I happen to enjoy, having a graphical user interface friendly brain set up! *grin*.

pkovak · 06-04-2009, 12:29 AM

Well, to say the truth, I use Unix/Linux mostly in work, not at home, because Windows simply... work. And most programs are made for them. And I use Linux KDE too, but mostly because I made some custom scripts and created some icons, which help me connect to remote servers with two clicks. That's where command line can't win, if you doing one action over and over again, you don't have to search for correct line, you can simply click on icon.

But on the eReader side: It just occured me, RobertB, that it would be very nice of eReaders if the software comming with it had some backing up utility - something like "click on this and all your books will be downloaded from eReader and stored where you want them". Maybe even creating an archive from them, zips are widely supported and it doesn't look like it will change.

Robertb · 06-04-2009, 01:05 PM

Dear All:

It was confirmed by Jinke last night that the scroll wheel is for page advance and regress.

This means you have all three: left hand buttons, right hand buttons and the side scroll wheel to navigate the pages.

AJ Starr · 06-04-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertb

Dear All:

It was confirmed by Jinke last night that the scroll wheel is for page advance and regress.

This means you have all three: left hand buttons, right hand buttons and the side scroll wheel to navigate the pages.

Robertb, that's Great about the scroll wheel.

I'm a bit confused about the "right hand buttons". I didn't see any. The left hand two buttons, yes, and now the scroll wheel on the right are FANTASTIC. We can use either hand. But where are the "right hand buttons"?

AJ

(Just waiting for the site to open to order mine!)

wallcraft · 06-04-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ Starr

But where are the "right hand buttons"?

The keys 9 and 0 (bottom center right) are used for page advance.

06-03-2009, 12:34 PM	#2239
Robertb Astak Director, Bus. Devl Posts: 2,560 Karma: 2500000 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Astak Pocket PRO	Side Shots of Pocket PRO https://www.mobileread.com/forums/att...1&d=1244046819 Attached Thumbnails

06-04-2009, 12:29 AM	#2247
pkovak Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Earth Device: none	Well, to say the truth, I use Unix/Linux mostly in work, not at home, because Windows simply... work. And most programs are made for them. And I use Linux KDE too, but mostly because I made some custom scripts and created some icons, which help me connect to remote servers with two clicks. That's where command line can't win, if you doing one action over and over again, you don't have to search for correct line, you can simply click on icon. But on the eReader side: It just occured me, RobertB, that it would be very nice of eReaders if the software comming with it had some backing up utility - something like "click on this and all your books will be downloaded from eReader and stored where you want them". Maybe even creating an archive from them, zips are widely supported and it doesn't look like it will change. Last edited by pkovak; 06-04-2009 at 01:06 AM.

06-04-2009, 01:05 PM	#2248
Robertb Astak Director, Bus. Devl Posts: 2,560 Karma: 2500000 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Astak Pocket PRO	Scroll Wheel on Pocket PRO Dear All: It was confirmed by Jinke last night that the scroll wheel is for page advance and regress. This means you have all three: left hand buttons, right hand buttons and the side scroll wheel to navigate the pages.

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06-03-2009, 12:53 AM	#2236
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	You can't really blame him, Robert. I mean, look at it objectively. You can buy your books anywhere, nearly, you have the expandable storage via SD card, and as you have said, the thing is built like a tank (I can corroborate, I juggled mine and dropped it and it's fine). Except for not having whispernet access to buy books with, (which to me is overkill anyway, sorry), the EZ Reader has a LOT of advantages over the Kindle 2.

06-03-2009, 12:33 PM	#2238
pkovak Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Earth Device: none	Depends on user. For your basic "noob", whispernet is a good thing, if you live in the right part of the world. If you learn how to use it fast - it's good, it works. Yes, it will also lock you to one shop to spend your money, among other things, but your basic user don't care, or don't see an alternative. Knowledge is power, in this example, it gives you choice, you know you will master another system fast and you will be able to get the books you want on it.

06-03-2009, 01:50 PM	#2242
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Well, in perspective of noob to ebook readers, I'd qualify, the EZ Reader is my first device, and I've had it all of three months or so. BUT... I was and am familiar with computers (though I hate command line), and I did my homework (thanks to all of you here at MR) so I wouldn't call myself "a basic end user". pkovak has a good point - whispernet IS easy (or so I've heard) and convenient, but I DO care about having my books backed up (which is something the basic user might not think about). There are a lot of people who read a book and discard it, but I'm not one of them, which is why a Kindle just isn't for me. I want my freedom of choice as to where to buy and where I can store the book, among a myriad of other concerns.

06-03-2009, 03:26 PM	#2243
pkovak Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Earth Device: none	You hate command line? Why? Do you not understand the beauty of Holy Pipe, chains of commands that make it much faster, more powerful and more precise than any icon or graphical representation can be? I will pray to Holy Pipe to enlighten you with it's knowledge! Oh, you are speaking about windows command line don't you... OK, right, you don't understand then... Any sensible person should backup his/her/it's important files if they have a choice - and backing up books is so easy, thanks to their size. Just wait, a lot of these people will find out how important it is - the hard way.

06-03-2009, 06:35 PM	#2246
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	It's ok, Robert, I think he was teasing. I can USE command line. I had to learn, for certain shall not be mentioned on this forum activities. But doesn't mean I LIKE it. I used Linux for a year as my primary O/S (Fedora). Went back to Windows due to lack of Paint Shop Pro. My husband feels the same way you do about the command line being beautiful in it's simplicity. It's just not something I happen to enjoy, having a graphical user interface friendly brain set up! grin.