Smart Q7 Tablet - Page 10

pathfinderca · 05-26-2009, 06:23 PM

Chippy, I watched your youtube movies and read your posts which are both great. I've one question about the pdf reader. You mentioned that the pdf reader is evince. Can you reflow the pdf text with it? Is it possible to add real pdf reader on it? Thank you for your attention.

Alslayer · 05-26-2009, 07:32 PM

Why do I want this device? I guess it is the 7" nokia tablet I have always wanted.

talaivan · 05-26-2009, 07:35 PM

I read books on both a Nokia N800 and an iRex Iliad. I like the Iliad for the larger screen, but I can't see any difference between the two with regard to eye strain. I've tried other eInk readers as well as the Iliad and find that the contrast between the type and the background is inadequate. This is not true of backlit LCD's. I think the whole issue of eye strain is something concocted by the eInk people to sell more machines. Certainly it's something I've never noticed, and I've used both kinds of screen intensively. My worry about the Q7 is different -- does it allow you to turn the brightness down enough for reading in a dark room in bed? The new OS of the N800 does not, but fortunately someone wrote a program that does. It is extremely uncomfortable reading at night on a screen that is too bright.

mobelby · 05-26-2009, 10:05 PM

Lowering brightness is critical to reading for extended periods on any LCD in my opinion. For example, the default brightness on my eeepc901 is way too bright and would both kill the battery too soon and be hard to use even for web browsing.

I'm hoping once Maemo is running that the brightness app from the N800 could be loaded onto the smartq 7 ??

rdelfin · 05-27-2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

Oh, I did not know that "came about because it does not have" could mean that it was just a benefit.

It surely can. Glad I could help.

ColdSun · 05-27-2009, 12:35 AM

I just received an email from the company I ordered the device from. They wanted to let me know they had some users who had success getting Windows CE 6.0 to run on the device using the SD card. Pretty cool.

http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...in%20SmarQ.htm

And here are screenshots of a very early build of Mer for the SmartQ 7. This isn't ready to be used as your OS on the SmartQ 7 quite yet, but its not far off either. I'm chatting with the Mer team every day to check out their progress. They really are a great bunch over there at maemo.org.

http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...mer%20team.htm

rgeorg · 05-27-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talaivan

My worry about the Q7 is different -- does it allow you to turn the brightness down enough for reading in a dark room in bed? The new OS of the N800 does not, but fortunately someone wrote a program that does. It is extremely uncomfortable reading at night on a screen that is too bright.

I have 2 netbooks, one with a good screen brightness control (Asus Eee) and the other which doesn't really dim enough. It makes all the difference in the reading experience in dim/dark light. I find the Eee fine to read with, but the Classmate does irritate my eyes in a short time, as does a pbook + bright lamp.

I think that a good range of brightness control is a critical factor. In any case, this looks like a very handy device overall. Thanks to Chippy and ColdSun for all the detailed info - I feel as if I practically have the device in my hands (well, not quite

).

GuillaumeJay · 05-27-2009, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdSun

I just received an email from the company I ordered the device from. They wanted to let me know they had some users who had success getting Windows CE 6.0 to run on the device using the SD card. Pretty cool.

For such a seedy website, they seem to be great, don't they ?

Windows C.E. is perhaps even better (for me), i'm just not sure it will work well with 128MB. But i don't know anything about windows CE.

Quote:

And here are screenshots of a very early build of Mer for the SmartQ 7. This isn't ready to be used as your OS on the SmartQ 7 quite yet, but its not far off either. I'm chatting with the Mer team every day to check out their progress. They really are a great bunch over there at maemo.org.

I was just going here to ask if this mer port was a wish, or something in progress.

I'm very interested in knowing about backlight setting. I'm using my PDA for reading at night, in bed, and my wife won't be happy if I light the whole room

klikklak · 05-27-2009, 04:23 AM

I just read the thread on mer Q5/7 on talk.maemo, VERY interesting, this looks exactly like the type of hacking that I enjoy. Not the development part, but installing etc. I suppose I could live with the original software for the month or two before they come up with a proper mer release for it. The reason why I wasn't so interested in nokia tablets, even though I had a good experience with the 770, was that they were locked down and they didn't support older models with new software. With a community distro all this is solved, which makes me a happy man.

ruskie · 05-27-2009, 04:52 AM

Youch just got my quote for Slovenia(you know in the EU not that much farther than germany, austria, italy) $270 plus the 20% VAT I'd have to pay and it's $330. I think I'll go with the openpandora that comes in at the same price point. Or maybe I'll go with the t91 depending if it's available. Or I just might go with the nokia N900.

Chippy · 05-27-2009, 06:57 AM

Hi All.

My review on the Q7 is up now....
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/05/sm...dle-and-crunch

Chippy.

Chippy · 05-27-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruskie

Youch just got my quote for Slovenia(you know in the EU not that much farther than germany, austria, italy) $270 plus the 20% VAT I'd have to pay and it's $330. I think I'll go with the openpandora that comes in at the same price point. Or maybe I'll go with the t91 depending if it's available. Or I just might go with the nokia N900.

I wonder why the delivery costs were so high.
I'm speaking with another reseller that's trying to get this into Europe. Will update if I hear anything concrete.

klikklak · 05-27-2009, 07:02 AM

Ouch, 80$ for postage is harsh. Luckily for me that with postage to finland it only costs 230$, which is reasonable even after VAT which is quite harsh at 22%, all in all, I'm looking at around 200€, which is A-OK as far as I'm concerned.

Chippy · 05-27-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuillaumeJay

I'm very interesting in knowing about backlight setting. I'm using my PDA for reading at night, in bed, and my wife won't be happy if I light the whole room

I've tested this for real. It goes really low. Perfect for browsing while wife sleeps!

Chippy · 05-27-2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdSun

I just received an email from the company I ordered the device from. They wanted to let me know they had some users who had success getting Windows CE 6.0 to run on the device using the SD card. Pretty cool.

http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...in%20SmarQ.htm

And here are screenshots of a very early build of Mer for the SmartQ 7. This isn't ready to be used as your OS on the SmartQ 7 quite yet, but its not far off either. I'm chatting with the Mer team every day to check out their progress. They really are a great bunch over there at maemo.org.

http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...mer%20team.htm

Love the look of the Mer screenshots. The Q7 gets even more interesting if I can run Mauku on it! Can't wait for a Q8. Ti OMAP and Maemo 5 please!!

Chippy.

05-27-2009, 12:35 AM	#141
ColdSun Developer/Device Reviews Posts: 591 Karma: 22183 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Device: Sony Xperia Tablet Z, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Lenovo Yoga 8, IPad 3	I just received an email from the company I ordered the device from. They wanted to let me know they had some users who had success getting Windows CE 6.0 to run on the device using the SD card. Pretty cool. http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...in%20SmarQ.htm And here are screenshots of a very early build of Mer for the SmartQ 7. This isn't ready to be used as your OS on the SmartQ 7 quite yet, but its not far off either. I'm chatting with the Mer team every day to check out their progress. They really are a great bunch over there at maemo.org. http://www.eletroworld.cn/nb/Service...mer%20team.htm Last edited by ColdSun; 05-27-2009 at 12:53 AM.

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05-26-2009, 06:23 PM	#136
pathfinderca Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2008 Device: Hanlin V.2	Chippy, I watched your youtube movies and read your posts which are both great. I've one question about the pdf reader. You mentioned that the pdf reader is evince. Can you reflow the pdf text with it? Is it possible to add real pdf reader on it? Thank you for your attention.

05-26-2009, 07:32 PM	#137
Alslayer Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Silicon Valley	Why do I want this device? I guess it is the 7" nokia tablet I have always wanted.

05-26-2009, 07:35 PM	#138
talaivan Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 4710362 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Sony prs-505	I read books on both a Nokia N800 and an iRex Iliad. I like the Iliad for the larger screen, but I can't see any difference between the two with regard to eye strain. I've tried other eInk readers as well as the Iliad and find that the contrast between the type and the background is inadequate. This is not true of backlit LCD's. I think the whole issue of eye strain is something concocted by the eInk people to sell more machines. Certainly it's something I've never noticed, and I've used both kinds of screen intensively. My worry about the Q7 is different -- does it allow you to turn the brightness down enough for reading in a dark room in bed? The new OS of the N800 does not, but fortunately someone wrote a program that does. It is extremely uncomfortable reading at night on a screen that is too bright.

05-26-2009, 10:05 PM	#139
mobelby Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 224 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: eeepc 901	Lowering brightness is critical to reading for extended periods on any LCD in my opinion. For example, the default brightness on my eeepc901 is way too bright and would both kill the battery too soon and be hard to use even for web browsing. I'm hoping once Maemo is running that the brightness app from the N800 could be loaded onto the smartq 7 ??

05-27-2009, 04:23 AM	#144
klikklak Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 124 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: helsinki Device: nokia 770, PRS-500	I just read the thread on mer Q5/7 on talk.maemo, VERY interesting, this looks exactly like the type of hacking that I enjoy. Not the development part, but installing etc. I suppose I could live with the original software for the month or two before they come up with a proper mer release for it. The reason why I wasn't so interested in nokia tablets, even though I had a good experience with the 770, was that they were locked down and they didn't support older models with new software. With a community distro all this is solved, which makes me a happy man.

05-27-2009, 04:52 AM	#145
ruskie Shade Posts: 100 Karma: 546 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.LC.MW.Sol.Earth.EE.SI.LJ Device: Hanlin Jinke V3ext running OpenInkPot	Youch just got my quote for Slovenia(you know in the EU not that much farther than germany, austria, italy) $270 plus the 20% VAT I'd have to pay and it's $330. I think I'll go with the openpandora that comes in at the same price point. Or maybe I'll go with the t91 depending if it's available. Or I just might go with the nokia N900.

05-27-2009, 06:57 AM	#146
Chippy Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 77 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: Various UMPCs	Hi All. My review on the Q7 is up now.... http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/05/sm...dle-and-crunch Chippy.

05-27-2009, 07:02 AM	#148
klikklak Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 124 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: helsinki Device: nokia 770, PRS-500	Ouch, 80$ for postage is harsh. Luckily for me that with postage to finland it only costs 230$, which is reasonable even after VAT which is quite harsh at 22%, all in all, I'm looking at around 200€, which is A-OK as far as I'm concerned.