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Old 05-21-2009, 05:38 PM   #136
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Perhaps we should ask Queen Zee?
Or Queen Zed?
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:43 PM   #137
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Or Queen Zed?
Did she have a sex change operation?
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:55 PM   #138
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Did she have a sex change operation?
It's really taken me a while to get that Zed is a boys name in the US - its not a name in the UK. So no, I am not accusing Queen Zee/Zed of having had a sex change!
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:58 PM   #139
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You don't have any Zedediah's over there? (Ok, we don't have many, but some!)
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:03 PM   #140
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You don't have any Zedediah's over there? (Ok, we don't have many, but some!)
Not a name I've ever come across, no.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:25 PM   #141
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Probably Quaker / Protestant in usage. Seems vaguely Biblical, but I'm not sure of that!
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:28 PM   #142
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I say KUP....my southern half says KOOP ....

I say bath, she says bahrth...
I say dinner, she says lunch...

I say butter, can't give the letters for how she pronounces it .... but it's close to batter.....
I was brought up by my nanna, who still had her Sunderland accent, and an aunt, who had a sort-of Home Counties/RP accent thanks to voicecoaching. Which means my natural accent is something of a blend of the two. Bath is pronounced with the same ba as bat; the castle in Newcastle is cassel but in Windsor Castle it's Carssel. And I occasionally say milluk and fillum (OK - that's an exaggeration of how it comes out - it's more like 1 1/2 syllables than two.)
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:35 PM   #143
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Zedediah/Zebadiah, a form of Zebedee, father of the Apostles James and John.

Also appears as a name in the books of Ezra and Chronicles


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Old 05-21-2009, 07:37 PM   #144
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Probably Quaker / Protestant in usage. Seems vaguely Biblical, but I'm not sure of that!
I stayed in the Quaker town of Bornville for work - where the Caburys chocolate factory is - I like Quakers - they make good chocolate
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:45 AM   #145
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In an American audiobook I'm currently listening to, I've come across two VERY odd (odd to me, at least) pronounciations:

1. The word "buoy" - ie a floating marker at sea - which the reader pronounced "boo-ee". In British English the word is pronounced the same as the word "boy".

2. The word "quay", which the reader pronounced "kway". Again, in British English it's pronounced "key".

Are these really the "normal" American English ways of saying these words? I've never come across this before.
I was schooled in British English but now am living in the U.S. I can verify that in American English buoy is pronounced "boo-ee" and quay is pronounced "kway." Very odd indeed.
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:34 AM   #146
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But but but... there's so many leftover unpronounced letters... just isn't fair... just sayin'... sniff...
Gaelic place names fool everybody. It has to be the language which has the least obvious connection between spelling and pronunciation!
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:39 AM   #147
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My fave weird way to pronounce a name is "St. John" .... here we say the actual words as in "Saint John" ... across the pond, they say "Sinjun" sort of all mushed together. Seems to be a habit of both the Americans and the English ... just put a bunch of letters together and then pronounce them any hell the way you want.

Gives us something to complain about between elections.
"St. John" is only "sinjun" when it's somebody's surname. In all other situations it's "Saint John", as you would expect.
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:45 AM   #148
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Yeah, I was under the impression for a long time that this was just illiteracy on the part of Americans but I have a vague recollection of reading somewhere that 'aluminum' was the more historically correct spelling.
The American version is the more correct one. Historically, the way that metalic elements were named was to replace the "-a" of the name of the "ore" (most metallic ores end in "-a") with "-um" for the element. Aluminium ore is called "alumina", hence "aluminum" for the name of the element. Many metalic ores end in "-ia", which is why the element ends in "-ium", but it doesn't in this case.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:42 AM   #149
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On a slightly different note; do you say .....

a hospital, or an hospital ?
a hotel, or an hotel ?


I was always taught that the 'silent' H meant the word phonetically started with a vowel...

though I'm prepared for pond-wise differences to emerge ?
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I know what I say - I actually just said it to myself - and in both cases I say a

I have booked us a hotel room
I have a delivery to make to a hospital

Yep a definately feels right for me even if it may be gammatically wrong as I remember the rule you mention about silent H's
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