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Old 05-15-2009, 08:54 AM   #46
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As I posted earlier, previously donwloaded books don't seem to have been changed remotely.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:23 AM   #47
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Thanks to those who've explained how to regain TTS on amazon books. My question is how do we do it on those topaz books? Hackers are you guys? Topaz is a nasty way to take away tts, and I've got a few books in that format. I'm forming a tutorial based on answers I get from you all...

I plan to host this tutorial in a place safe for future readers. So your help is appreciated. PM me with info
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:24 AM   #48
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Do Topaz books support TTS?
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:47 PM   #49
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Personally, I'm just going to boycott the authors who went along with this.
This is the right approach. Also make sure that publishers who enforce this are also boycotted.

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This is really just spitting in the face of special needs folks...
While this is a great argument for keeping TTS enabled, this should not be the only argument. TTS should not be limited to those with special needs. TTS should be enjoyed by ALL consumers who purchase eBooks.

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I checked it out for you, since I have a topaz book I bought by mistake early in my Kindling career. (Flash by L.E. Modesitt). My K2 is reading it aloud as I type. So yes, topaz is at least capable of supporting TTS.
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:31 AM   #51
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I think they caved to the publishers. The authors guild was very vocal but they got a lot of complaints from the publishers also and from what i remember of Amazon's statement about this it seemed that it was the publishers' opinions they cared about.
Technically correct, but it was the Writers Guild who shouted "TTS!" in a crowded publishing house. (The mixed metaphor seemed more clever before I actually typed it...ah well).

I also have heard anecdotally that one or more publishers actually had the presence of mind to include language in their Amazon ebook contracts that specifically referenced their TTS rights, so Amazon's "caving" may actually have been more an expression of legal pragmatism than anything else.

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As it seems the case that authors can opt out, I'm going to stick with boycotting the authors rather than the entire publisher (as to not punish those who opt out or choose not to do so.)

But yes, we should all be able to use it. If nothing else than because that's how the device was marketed!
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Old 05-16-2009, 05:32 PM   #53
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As I posted earlier, previously donwloaded books don't seem to have been changed remotely.
It's probably a good idea to re-iterate that there is no evidence that Amazon has ever changed any downloaded book remotely, other than deleting books that have been refunded.

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Old 05-18-2009, 10:43 AM   #54
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Free samples also seem to have TTS disabled, for example here is the result of mobi2mobi on a sample of American Lion by Jon Meacham: So far, all ebooks without EXTH 404 allow TTS and all ebooks with 404 disallow TTS. Is this still the case with samples?
If you open a book with a 404 item in an editor and change 404 to for example 414 will TTS work then?
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If you open a book with a 404 item in an editor and change 404 to for example 414 will TTS work then?
It may, but then it might only display words without vowels...

The only sure way is to remove the 404 entry.

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Old 05-18-2009, 12:49 PM   #56
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It may, but then it might only display words without vowels...

The only sure way is to remove the 404 entry.

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Have you tested? Because the EXTH header can contain entries that a reader program do not know about and they will just be ignored. So changing the type of the EXTH entry should not affect functionality.

If a simple binary editor can trivially fix this then nobody can complain about mobi2mobi (I added a flag --allowtts to mobi2mobi...).
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Have you tested? Because the EXTH header can contain entries that a reader program do not know about and they will just be ignored. So changing the type of the EXTH entry should not affect functionality.

If a simple binary editor can trivially fix this then nobody can complain about mobi2mobi (I added a flag --allowtts to mobi2mobi...).
I've only tested removing the flag entirely. Perhaps just changing to an unused value would achieve the same effect. I'll try that this evening.

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If a simple binary editor can trivially fix this then nobody can complain about mobi2mobi (I added a flag --allowtts to mobi2mobi...).
Is your latest updated version of mobi2mobi available for d/l?

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Old 05-18-2009, 02:13 PM   #59
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As it seems the case that authors can opt out, I'm going to stick with boycotting the authors rather than the entire publisher (as to not punish those who opt out or choose not to do so.)
At this point Random House authors (the only publisher that has actually disabled TTS, afaik) do NOT yet have the option of allowing or disallowing TTS. Random House apparently hopes to enable this in the future, but they haven't at this time. It's unclear why some RH books have TTS and some don't, but it's not the author's individual decision.
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Is your latest updated version of mobi2mobi available for d/l?
It is in subversion. But there is already a flag in mobi2mobi to remove the 404 exth item so you do not need a new version.
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