over 100 books of my kindle library just vaporized

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

Let's be honest: you didn't "backed them up", you pirated them. As soon as Amazon had stopped selling those, you lost the license, and had to destroy both downloaded files and backups.

I “back up” every single book I buy from Amazon. I have lost thousands of ebooks from publishers that closed and I refuse to lose any more.

The day I can no longer back up an Amazon purchase is the day i stop buying.

[DJUNGELSKOG]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

You buy physical books which perish - why should the digital book be any different? It is unreasonable to expect owning something forever because "OMG digital!" vibe.

My copy of The Forsyte Saga was printed in 1925 so it’s pretty reasonable to expect owning it forever. What exactly do you do to your physical books that makes them perish?

[maddz]

Originally Posted by DJUNGELSKOG

My copy of The Forsyte Saga was printed in 1925 so it’s pretty reasonable to expect owning it forever. What exactly do you do to your physical books that makes them perish?

Judging by the nonsense being spouted, my guess they're using them for what old, cut up newspaper squares were used for...

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I have lost thousands of ebooks from publishers that closed...

If a publisher closed, you lost the license which allowed you to make copies of the copyrighted material to have on your devices. Now you have to remove them and any backups you made. Otherwise it is no different than straight pirating them.

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by DJUNGELSKOG

What exactly do you do to your physical books that makes them perish?

I read them, you know.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

I read them, you know.

They just vanished after you read them?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

If a publisher closed, you lost the license which allowed you to make copies of the copyrighted material to have on your devices. Now you have to remove them and any backups you made. Otherwise it is no different than straight pirating them.

That's certainly not true. For example, I still have books bought from Amazon in my Kindle Library whose publishers went belly up a decade ago. Amazon has not removed those books from my account. They can still be downloaded and read on Kindles and in Kindle apps.

It seems to me you make ridiculous claims without actually knowing anything about relevant laws.

[haertig]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

If a publisher closed, you lost the license which allowed you to make copies of the copyrighted material to have on your devices. Now you have to remove them and any backups you made. Otherwise it is no different than straight pirating them.

Are you a real person or an A.I. generated troll? There is zero logic in that statement above.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

As soon as Amazon had stopped selling those, you lost the license, and had to destroy both downloaded files and backups.

Where did you come up with that piece of overaged tripe? When Amazon stops selling the book, this does not invalidate existing licenses. From Baen, Kobo and Amazon, I have purchased licenses for books to which they later lost the rights. My licenses purchased while they had the rights are still valid and I can download a new copy years later as long as the online store is still in business. One example being several books that I purchased from Kobo during a short period where the books were published wide and then taken into Kindle Plus yet they still show in my Kobo account though you can no longer purchase a license from Kobo.

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by DNSB

When Amazon stops selling the book, this does not invalidate existing licenses.

If they don't have a license to make the copies of the copyrighted document, you don't have it too.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

If they don't have a license to make the copies of the copyrighted document, you don't have it too.

The point is that the end user has purchased a license and that license remains valid even if the vendor no longer has their license required to sell a license to another end user.

You seem to be conflating the two which is risible at best.

[slimcat]

I'm very intrigued by Sarmat89's perishing books. Sarmat, you said they perish when you read them, which raises questions about your reading process. Do you eat each page as you go? Toss them on the fire when you're done? Shop exclusively at Disintegrating Books R Us? Would love to know more.

[haertig]

Originally Posted by DNSB

You seem to be conflating the two which is risible at best.

I just learned a new word. Thanks!

[Sirtel]

I'd like to know if Sarmat89 regularly checks which of their purchased ebooks are still being sold by the store where they bought them from, and if not, immediately deletes all their copies. Ditto for the publishers still being in business.

I mean, you tell us we should delete our ebooks if they're no longer sold or the publisher has folded; does that mean you go over your ebooks, like, once a month and check those things?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by slimcat

I'm very intrigued by Sarmat89's perishing books. Sarmat, you said they perish when you read them, which raises questions about your reading process. Do you eat each page as you go? Toss them on the fire when you're done? Shop exclusively at Disintegrating Books R Us? Would love to know more.

Maybe they think their license to read the book is no longer valid after they've read it and they have to destroy their copy...