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mjh215 · 05-17-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Still, some on the list there that were so bad first time around that there's not really much pressure on the remakes; Red Sonja, Meatballs, Conan, The Karate Kid and Footloose spring to mind. Let's face it, you don't need to be Francis Ford Coppola to improve on those!

Regardless how you felt about them, there are those (quite a few really) that consider them classics. That is the problem with remakes. And I really don't buy the excuse that films need to be updated for modern viewers. I grew up with modern special effects (well, the Star Wars era at least) and have no problem watching, understanding and enjoying classics including silent films. Remaking Kurosawa? I -know- Dante wrote a special place in Hell for those producers/directors!

If you are not creative enough that you need to remake something, just rename it and change things around a bit. It is what writers, playwrights and film makers have been doing for centuries. Otherwise you are just cashing in... Bleh...

-MJ

LazyScot · 05-17-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

There's Assam too if you'd prefer - large leaf, Harmutty.

I don't suppose you have some Oolong (guess what book I'm re-reading, interspersed with Suggested Oddities).

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Currently wondering why I bothered watching Angels & Demons...why, oh why, oh why, oh why????

Perhaps since, after you'd drawn the pentagrams and made the incantations, Tam O'Shanter came to mind and you felt watching was safer than dancing?

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Originally Posted by kazbates

But I do like Tom Hanks and have seen most of his movies, usually on DVD, though.

Kaz

Maybe it's the child in me, but I do love Big....

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

One remake sorely designed to be sent to the dustbin would be "The Fly" ... How anyone can say that the remake was anyway comparable to the scarey original needs to see a spider immediately ....

edit : Also - "The 39 steps" ....

Not all remakes should be consigned to the dustbin. The Thomas Crowne Affair, for example...

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Originally Posted by mjh215

If you are not creative enough that you need to remake something, just rename it and change things around a bit. It is what writers, playwrights and film makers have been doing for centuries. Otherwise you are just cashing in... Bleh...

-MJ

Like Psycho?

And after all that, I think it is time for an episode of "Mad Men"....

Bilbo1967 · 05-17-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mjh215

Regardless how you felt about them, there are those (quite a few really) that consider them classics....

-MJ

I suppose I could just about accept that somebody, somewhere once watched Red Sonja or the Karate Kid without being violently sick and trying to gouge their own eyes out (it is a big world after all) - but 'classics', surely not?

mjh215 · 05-17-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

I suppose I could just about accept that somebody, somewhere once watched Red Sonja or the Karate Kid without being violently sick and trying to gouge their own eyes out (it is a big world after all) - but 'classics', surely not?

I personally enjoyed both, each in their own campy way... I would argue Karate Kid is certainly a classic with phrases and references that have easily become part of American (and possibly the world's) culture. It is also the epitome of the 80's underdog/bully film genre. I'm not saying you have to like it, I never would say anything like that to someone, but certainly you can see its influence?

Red Sonja isn't along those lines, though Conan would be.

-MJ

nekokami · 05-17-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

I consider the film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" such a classic that I would hate to see what the re-make has done to it .....

I do consider The Day the Earth Stood Still a classic, and didn't think it needed a remake, but still, if I had a copy, I think I'd watch it, to see what they did. I understand the makers took both the original film and the short story into account, and in my mind that makes it a reinterpretation of the original, rather than just a remake.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Still, some on the list there that were so bad first time around that there's not really much pressure on the remakes; Red Sonja, Meatballs, Conan, The Karate Kid and Footloose spring to mind. Let's face it, you don't need to be Francis Ford Coppola to improve on those!

Oddly enough, I liked The Karate Kid. Perhaps it was the age at which I saw it-- or maybe I just liked Pat Morita in the role.

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Originally Posted by mjh215

If you are not creative enough that you need to remake something, just rename it and change things around a bit. It is what writers, playwrights and film makers have been doing for centuries. Otherwise you are just cashing in... Bleh...

I'd have to say I generally agree with this. Including Disney "interpretations" of classics.

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Originally Posted by LazyScot

I don't suppose you have some Oolong (guess what book I'm re-reading, interspersed with Suggested Oddities).

Would you prefer Jade-Ti Oolong, or Oriental Beauty?

kazbates · 05-17-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mjh215

I personally enjoyed both, each in their own campy way... I would argue Karate Kid is certainly a classic with phrases and references that have easily become part of American (and possibly the world's) culture. It is also the epitome of the 80's underdog/bully film genre. I'm not saying you have to like it, I never would say anything like that to someone, but certainly you can see its influence?

Red Sonja isn't along those lines, though Conan would be.

-MJ

"Wax on, wax off"! "Painta de fence, Painta de fence'!

nekokami · 05-17-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

"Wax on, wax off"! "Painta de fence, Painta de fence'!

"Don't forget to breathe. Breathing is very important."

yvanleterrible · 05-17-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

"Wax on, wax off"! "Painta de fence, Painta de fence'!

Oh, yeah!

Now he is a great character. A remake would suffer without him.

Patricia · 05-17-2009, 04:12 PM

I'm taking a short break from campaigning to save humanities and Welsh teaching in my university department (and, incidentally, save my own job).
The University Council could vote tomorrow to reject the proposal, or to send all our jobs to be evaluated by the redundancy committee. There's a demo, a load of media coverage, and some celebrity support. There's not much more we can do tonight.
The campaign blog is here:
http://savehumanitiescardifflifelong....blogspot.com/

mjh215 · 05-17-2009, 04:23 PM

Patricia, what is the reasoning behind all the cuts? I'm sorry to hear it, and hope it works out for you and everyone else concerned.

-MJ

Patricia · 05-17-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mjh215

Patricia, what is the reasoning behind all the cuts? I'm sorry to hear it, and hope it works out for you and everyone else concerned.

-MJ

It is now illegal to discriminate against part-time workers in the UK. Many of our tutors are part-time, hourly-paid staff. They are legally entitled to a pay increase. This could lead to our pay budget being increased by about 40%.

Instead of being disappointed at the fact that the part-timers have been exploited for years, the authorities are just sacking them.

We believe that we can explore other funding sources, make economies elsewhere, and make some very careful cuts, so as to preserve a lot of the teaching.

LazyScot · 05-17-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

I'm taking a short break from campaigning to save humanities and Welsh teaching in my university department (and, incidentally, save my own job).
The University Council could vote tomorrow to reject the proposal, or to send all our jobs to be evaluated by the redundancy committee. There's a demo, a load of media coverage, and some celebrity support. There's not much more we can do tonight.
The campaign blog is here:
http://savehumanitiescardifflifelong....blogspot.com/

Good luck with tomorrow's vote. My thoughts are with you, and the rest of your department

zelda_pinwheel · 05-17-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

I'm taking a short break from campaigning to save humanities and Welsh teaching in my university department (and, incidentally, save my own job).
The University Council could vote tomorrow to reject the proposal, or to send all our jobs to be evaluated by the redundancy committee. There's a demo, a load of media coverage, and some celebrity support. There's not much more we can do tonight.
The campaign blog is here:
http://savehumanitiescardifflifelong....blogspot.com/

good luck patricia. i really hope it all works out for the best, or at the very least that you can avoid the worst. i'll be thinking of you tomorrow, please let us know what happens.

i hope you can relax a bit tonight and take your mind off things. you could use a break, i suspect.

nekokami · 05-17-2009, 06:35 PM

Good luck, Patricia! I hope the long view comes to prevail over this bit of short-sightedness.

tirsales · 05-17-2009, 06:37 PM

Luck Patricia ... I really hope everything turns out well!

05-17-2009, 04:12 PM	#5049
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	I'm taking a short break from campaigning to save humanities and Welsh teaching in my university department (and, incidentally, save my own job). The University Council could vote tomorrow to reject the proposal, or to send all our jobs to be evaluated by the redundancy committee. There's a demo, a load of media coverage, and some celebrity support. There's not much more we can do tonight. The campaign blog is here: http://savehumanitiescardifflifelong....blogspot.com/

05-17-2009, 04:23 PM	#5050
mjh215 Guru Posts: 988 Karma: 12653 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: None of your business	Patricia, what is the reasoning behind all the cuts? I'm sorry to hear it, and hope it works out for you and everyone else concerned. -MJ

05-17-2009, 06:35 PM	#5054
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Good luck, Patricia! I hope the long view comes to prevail over this bit of short-sightedness.

05-17-2009, 06:37 PM	#5055
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	Luck Patricia ... I really hope everything turns out well!