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Old Yesterday, 09:24 AM   #76
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Not everyone uses a cover. I don't, because it makes a device harder to hold for me and is an additional cost I don't need or want. Buttons belong on the device, not on its accessory.
Navigation buttons do not belong with a touchscreen.
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Old Yesterday, 09:27 AM   #77
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Navigation buttons do not belong with a touchscreen.
Touchscreens should be ditched.
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Touchscreens should be ditched.
Touchscreens make cell phones and Readers much easier to use. Do you want to go back to a number pad for text messages or any other text you need to type?
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Touchscreens make cell phones and Readers much easier to use. Do you want to go back to a number pad for text messages or any other text you need to type?
I think we'd all appreciate it if one of you was willing to let this go. At least until next time.
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Touchscreens make cell phones and Readers much easier to use. Do you want to go back to a number pad for text messages or any other text you need to type?
For phones I can put up with them, as there is no good alternative at the moment, but I'd like my ereaders to use only buttons for navigation, yes.
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I do admit that the screen of my Kindle Keyboard is just a bit nicer to look at because it doesn't have the touchscreen layer. But as a compromise, I am fine with my Oasis having the touchscreen for the menus and the physical buttons for turning pages.
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Navigation buttons do not belong with a touchscreen.
Guess we'll have to redesign your cell phone then. No volume switch
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I think we'd all appreciate it if one of you was willing to let this go. At least until next time.
THIS!!!!!

Sounds like Amazon is doing the most to get the most money out of people.

I won't be one of them. I like readers with buttons on the reader, I prefer to get aftermarket cases at reasonable prices.

Fortunately, there are now a lot of options to get those things and Amazon can be ignored.

Choices are good, having your own preferences are good.

Going around in endless debating circles over ones personal preferences is just S.....Immature.
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I do admit that the screen of my Kindle Keyboard is just a bit nicer to look at because it doesn't have the touchscreen layer. But as a compromise, I am fine with my Oasis having the touchscreen for the menus and the physical buttons for turning pages.
My Kobo Aura H20 has a touchscreen but not touchscreen layer because it's IR.
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E-ink screens have lost clarity with each new tech layer added. Touch reduced clarity, the light layer reduced clarity. Now color, though that's different thing altogether.

I remember the old kindles just before touch. The clarity was shockingly good. People thought the display screens were stuck on.

But touch and light have added huge convenience, and screen clarity improvements have somewhat made up for the losses of the added layers.

Personally I like to have buttons AND touch.
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The buttons seem a good idea to me. A cover is something every Reader should have on it. So why not have buttons. That means that those who don't want buttons and have the Kindle with no buttons. And those that do can have the buttons.
It strikes me as a cash grab. No reason not to have buttons AND touch.

I wonder how the case buttons interface with the hardware. Will they work reliably? Generally these add-on cases don't work well--thinking of the battery case for the Oasis and the Sage. Both glitchy.
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The Button and Cover debates will never end.

Evidently Button lovers are a small minority, or Amazon would see a reason to produce devices with them. They come finally come out with cover-with-buttons to accommodate and now it turns out some button lovers don't want to use covers, and don't like or cannot physically use touch screens.

I would give Amazon credit for at least providing some options (cover or wireless page turner with buttons) after all this time. But obviously they cannot please everyone.

They claim to be selling more Kindles than ever, and the fact that they are releasing 6 (not including Kids editions) is some sort of proof of that.
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I thought one of the draws of the Signature Edition was wireless charging. That doesn't appear to be mentioned any longer, so did they remove that? I didn't think it was compatible with aluminum cases, which is why so many phones are now glass front and back.

First thoughts, its nice to have an option for page turn buttons (although at $80 for the case, ouch)

Every generation, I'm still glad I got a Voyage when I did. I bought a like-new backup (with the origami case) last year even just in case I break mine.
If you check the accessories page for the Paperwhite Signature Edition, they are releasing a new wireless charging stand.
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It strikes me as a cash grab. No reason not to have buttons AND touch.

I wonder how the case buttons interface with the hardware. Will they work reliably? Generally these add-on cases don't work well--thinking of the battery case for the Oasis and the Sage. Both glitchy.
The reason is that the bezel is not wide enough for buttons. Amazon would have to have used the Oasis form factor.
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The Button and Cover debates will never end.

Evidently Button lovers are a small minority, or Amazon would see a reason to produce devices with them. They come finally come out with cover-with-buttons to accommodate and now it turns out some button lovers don't want to use covers, and don't like or cannot physically use touch screens.

I would give Amazon credit for at least providing some options (cover or wireless page turner with buttons) after all this time. But obviously they cannot please everyone.

They claim to be selling more Kindles than ever, and the fact that they are releasing 6 (not including Kids editions) is some sort of proof of that.
Very well said!

I don't get why some people can't use a touchscreen who have no physical reason.
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