New Kindles today

[Canis_lupus]

Originally Posted by cgsmom

As far as I can tell, none of the kindles have rotating text. So if you want the page turn case you better be right handed.

I think it does have the auto rotation. I saw a quick hands on video and the person turns the Paperwhite Signature upside down and the screen flashes. It was very fast and the text was blurry but I think this was demonstrating the screen flip.

[Hollow Man]

Originally Posted by Canis_lupus

I think it does have the auto rotation. I saw a quick hands on video and the person turns the Paperwhite Signature upside down and the screen flashes. It was very fast and the text was blurry but I think this was demonstrating the screen flip.

If I recall, the text will flip when you rotate the thing 180, but the button mappings stay the same (whereas with the Oasis, they also flip).

[tubemonkey]

For those interested in the Kids Kids versions, note that Amazon changed the warranty.

Older Models: "Includes a 2-year worry-free guarantee. If it breaks, return it and we'll replace it for free."

Newest Models: "1-year limited warranty" and that means if your kid breaks it, it's not covered. To get that 2-year coverage back ("covers drops, spills, and cracked screens from day one"), you'll have to buy a separate protection plan that will cost you an additional $23 to $37 depending on the model.

That's mighty generous of Amazon, ain't it?

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

For those interested in the Kids Kids versions, note that Amazon changed the warranty.

Older Models: "Includes a 2-year worry-free guarantee. If it breaks, return it and we'll replace it for free."

Newest Models: "1-year limited warranty" and that means if your kid breaks it, it's not covered. To get that 2-year coverage back ("covers drops, spills, and cracked screens from day one"), you'll have to buy a separate protection plan that will cost you an additional $23 to $37 depending on the model.

That's mighty generous of Amazon, ain't it?

In the UK we don’t have the protection plans so I’ll have to take a look and see what they say now.

[Yapyap]

An extra issue with putting the buttons on the case is that it’s quite likely that the case (especially as it’s not made of leather) will start fraying and breaking apart years before the Kindle itself.

So then you’ll end up with needing to get a new case, which may not be available any more or if it is, will cost another 85 € just to keep using buttons .. which would not be an issue if the buttons were part of the e-reader.

(Amazon’s cases used to be pretty good quality, admittedly, and mine are still in good shape. But I’ve seen a fair number of complaints online about the ones for more recent Kindles - looking quite dilapidated after a year or two already, especially when people carry their Kindles with them in a bag or purse and, well, use them.)

[ec1matt]

In theory, I think the case with buttons is a clever way to offer buttons to those that want them, although the price is a bit steep.

However, I'm massively put off that although you can rotate the device so the buttons are on the left (I hold my Kindle with my left hand so I can use my right hand to hold my coffee) that puts the "chin" of the Kindle at the top which gives me the heebie-jeebies.

I guess I'll stick with my Oasis 3 until it breaks.

[Josieb1]

So much for thinner and lighter. I calculated the non aluminium basic kindle with its matching case at 250gms. My 2024 basic, which was almost half the price of the new one, in its third party case weighs 248gms. No point in me upgrading for something lighter to carry.

[Gormagon]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Manufacturers need to ditch their fetish for making devices thinner and thinner and in the process, they remove user wanted features like page turn buttons and headphone jacks.

It looks like most consumers want thinner devices or devices with only one port for everything, there are also people who don't like cables on their headphones so they use BT. Most people buy these devices although there are alternatives which are just niche products these days. Not the manufactures are to blame, the consumers are. After all it's capitalism and not socialism with a planned economy where the state dictates what is being produced.
You can buy other devices with page turn buttons or phones with a headphone jack.

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Greed is when they take away a highly desirable feature and then force customers to pay extra money for a secondary device just to get that feature back again.

It gets more ridiculous with every new post here...
Nobody forces anyone to buy a Kindle or an e-ink device at all. If you don't like what Amazon has to offer, do not buy it. There a alternatives. Buy these!

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The new Kindle SE models give you multiple ways to add buttons. Button lovers should be very happy.

Jon, If Kobo released a 6" device, and included the following options:

A cover that included an additional 7" screen
A cover that included an addition 7" screen with buttons

So Kobo would give you multiple ways to add a 7" screen.

Do you think Kobo 7" lovers should be very happy?

[Hollow Man]

Originally Posted by John F

Jon, If Kobo released a 6" device, and included the following options:

He may be being sarcastic. Regardless, it is fascinating that Amazon is trying to have their cake and eat it too. They're acknowledging the people who want physical buttons, but aren't willing to compromise their current shape design to do it, and they're charging people more for the inelegant solution. I applaud them. 😆

[John F]

Originally Posted by Hollow Man

He may be being sarcastic. ...

Did you read this thread and their posts? Are you familiar with their posting history.

I don't believe they are being sarcastic.

[Hollow Man]

Originally Posted by John F

Did you read this thread and their posts? Are you familiar with their posting history.

I don't believe they are being sarcastic.

Oh yes I am fully aware 🙃

[JSWolf]

The buttons seem a good idea to me. A cover is something every Reader should have on it. So why not have buttons. That means that those who don't want buttons and have the Kindle with no buttons. And those that do can have the buttons.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The buttons seem a good idea to me. A cover is something every Reader should have on it. So why not have buttons. That means that those who don't want buttons and have the Kindle with no buttons. And those that do can have the buttons.

Not everyone uses a cover. I don't, because it makes a device harder to hold for me and is an additional cost I don't need or want. Buttons belong on the device, not on its accessory.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Not everyone uses a cover. I don't, because it makes a device harder to hold for me and is an additional cost I don't need or want. Buttons belong on the device, not on its accessory.

As much as the buttons on the cover look nice and I would like them I don’t think I am prepared to pay £75 for that cover. Even £45 for the non button cover is twice what I normally pay. I’ve pre ordered the Bluetooth click turner and that will do. I don’t have an issue with the touch screen for turning pages when I am in bed.